Ladies, how long would you stay in a relationship without a ring? (pregnancy, college)
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I don't consider a man who doesn't want to get married a loser just for that one fact. If he was a straight a**hole all the way around, thats an issue in and of itself and you never should have given him the time of day to begin with.
The sum of his childish irresponsible actions in this particular situation= loser. I am not saying that men who honestly and consistently state to their girlfriend they do not want to get married are losers. In the final analysis, it will come to light whether they are or not. Not an ahole so much as just childish and scared, too dependent on mom and his siblings as I got to know him. It was a real turnoff.
A couple of years, I guess. It would depend on whether I thought we were eventually going to get married. I would not agree to live together before marriage.
Girls who WANT to get married, that's who I'm looking for
If your Divorced or You NEVER wanted to get married this isn't for you.
But if you want to get married,
How long are you willing to stay without your ring?
I WAS single. And I did want to get married and have a family. The ring would have not made a difference in the long run. I simply would not have had a child.
Not every girl wants to get married. I would be fine with long term bf who had his own place to live . My daughter is young and not marriage minded but keeps running into guys that are. It's a different world.
They are dumb. If you are with a man for that long OR whatever length of time. Yes it is. BTW.... if she was marriage material...he would have proposed a long time ago.
This was my actual life experience. We divorced 8 years later because his alcoholism got out of control. I was an amazing wife and he was proud of me. Just needed a push. A lot of men need that push. Probably more than ever these days. (She said ultimatums are dumb)
What does this have to do with women having children with men they aren't married to who dont posses the provider characteristics you said women look for in men before they "mate"?
A protector / provider , this is what findly185 was commenting on. Sure some women look for that but a lot is based on physical attraction or how nice the guy treats you. Could be any number of things that draws a woman to a certain man.
Thank you, that is all I'm saying. The folks on here throwing rotten tomatoes at me, just don't want to look at the idea that any time a woman spends with a man who really doesn't want her is just too much time wasted. In my last serious relationship, it took two years for the "M" word to come up. I didn't offer an ultimatum. He said he didn't want to be "rushed" Because I loved him and he said he wanted marriage, I gave him two more years, only to have him hem and and haw and make excuses at the end of that second two years. Vindication is sweet though. This is a small town and he has done similar to couple of other girls over the years so now he has a repuation for being a big flake and a weak mama's boy and now he can't even get arrested. No one will go out with him! I guess he'll go try to catch some poor hapless unsuspecting non-citizen to take him and his mama and his freeloading family on. Hope she's got a lot of money. She'll need it.
I agree with what you are saying. If marriage is what you want ladies , have limits. Men live with women for convenience sometimes , pay half the bills or / and convenient sex. Do you want convrnience or a man who cares about what is important to you?
Why put up with the pig for just a little sausage?
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I WAS single. And I did want to get married and have a family. The ring would have not made a difference in the long run. I simply would not have had a child.
. My daughter is young and not marriage minded but keeps running into guys that are. It's a different world.
