American Style Dating (lesbians, straight, beautiful, attraction)
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Interesting article goldfrapp. I'm not surprised Perth is at the bottom of the list. More males to females per capita than any other city in Australia, we're supposed to have attractive women but none of them seem to be single. A lot of those burly, macho type men, many who work up in the mines. It's not as friendly as it used to be, and most people are so parochial and conventional. Most of the attractive women seem to just care about going to the beach, shopping with friends, drinking, their careers, buying a house or going on trips to Bali. It's a very stultifying place for anyone with any ambition that doesn't revolve around house or career. Melbourne is to go for me personally, I dig the ladies there. Hopefully I can move soon.
Perth definitely has the most beautiful women. I went there, for the Hopman Cup a few years ago, and I felt like I'd just walked into a large modelling agency! The girls there were tall, slim, with no make-up and cute clothes. I have a friend there who is totally gorgeous, too. I think in Melbourne, because it's so freezing in the Winter, we tend to be more book-worms, overall. But we can be stylish, too. The problem is, it's the home of AFL, so there are heaps of rowdy, drunken men all over the streets on the weekend, going on and on about the football!
From all the people I know from Australia, the main point is they date people from the groups they hang out in. Therefore they know them pretty well before they technically "date".
From the military men I know, they say Australian women are all over them because American men treat them better than Australian men.
From the majority of Australian tourists who are male who come here, I TOTALLY understand the paragraph above. Most Aussie men I've met in the tourist areas are complete and utter a$$es.
That said, I know plenty Aussie guys who are totally cool.
Yeah, that's why I included a few historical references about the first time Australian women came into contact with American men, during World War II. Basically, the war changed everything - to accomodate the Americans, whole entertainment complexes were set up - dancing halls, hamburger joints, diners, the lot. Nothing like that had happened before, especially since the country at that time (1941) only had 7 million people. So, like what Anne Summers said, Australian women were exposed to a style of 'entertainment and flattery' like they'd never before experienced. Especially the dancing and the bands. The American GIs would show the girls how to do all the dances. Since war has pretty much shaped the national identity, the World War II experience is still in the national consciousness. So, now, it's like with American sailors, you still get a few Australian girls that are attracted to them. Likewise with American bands, especially if the singers happen to dance! (If you've seen the average Australian man try to dance at clubs, it's the funniest thing you'll ever see!) I have a friend that used to compete in swing dancing competitions, and travelled to the States for the international finals. So, there's that nostalgia there that still exists, I think.
This is my favourite quote (about American GIs in Australia during World Warr II) from Anne Summers' 'Damned Whores And God's Police: Women's Lives in Australia. (P 462): "A great many Australian women, married and single, were literally swept off their feet by the Americans who treated them to dating and courtship rituals which were practically unheard of in Australia. The Americans could afford to, and did, buy the favour of Australian women with gifts of orchids, perfume, stockings, cigarettes and other rare commodities, but they also provided a style of entertainment and of flattering of women which most Australian women had never before experienced. All this created a great deal of bitterness and resentment amongst Australian men."
Here's a bit of an excerpt from an Anne Summers interview, explaining the title of the book:
GEORGE NEGUS: The cover of your book, Damned Whores and God's Police, to what extent is the title of that book a synopsis of how you saw the position of women in society at that time?
ANNE SUMMERS: Totally. Absolutely. I was so, I guess, pleased when I was able to discover those historical phrases that, to me, matched what the situation was of women growing up – where you're good girls or bad girls and nothing in between. And I found that phrase, "damned whores", in Lieutenant Ralph Clark's diaries. And then I came across Caroline Chisholm's writing exhorting young respectable middle-class women to migrate to Australia and become God's police. I just thought, "Well, this sums it up."
Haha, I used to love Indiana Jones when I was little! It's kind of ironic how Hollywood is now casting a lot of Australian actors as action heroes now...But the Americans that swept the girls off their feet weren't celebrities, they were just treated like they were - as if they knew Clark Gable personally!
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Another thing about the whole 'American entertainment and flattery' - Australian women still love dancing at parties and clubs - they just dance with each other. Australian men are usually at the bar with their mates, drinking beers. And when one of them tries to dance, it really is so funny. I found this quote about Australian men dancing: "There is a stereotype that Australian men dance like Frankenstein. Their lack of rhythm and stiff knees has many of them resembling a chicken or jack in the box bouncing from side to side. Other men just watch over the dance floor, beer in hand, as they perhaps beat their chin to the music."
Often, the girls will just be in tears in laughter, it's that funny! At dance music festivals, it's the same - sometimes it looks like they're having a fit!
So, American singer/dancers like Usher and boy-bands are really popular here, because of that combination of dancing and flattering the women! I actually went to the NKOTBSB concert here recently, and the girls really appreciated the dancing! This is some footage of the night I went to:
Yeah, that's why I included a few historical references about the first time Australian women came into contact with American men, during World War II. Basically, the war changed everything - to accomodate the Americans, whole entertainment complexes were set up - dancing halls, hamburger joints, diners, the lot. Nothing like that had happened before, especially since the country at that time (1941) only had 7 million people. So, like what Anne Summers said, Australian women were exposed to a style of 'entertainment and flattery' like they'd never before experienced. Especially the dancing and the bands. The American GIs would show the girls how to do all the dances. Since war has pretty much shaped the national identity, the World War II experience is still in the national consciousness. So, now, it's like with American sailors, you still get a few Australian girls that are attracted to them. Likewise with American bands, especially if the singers happen to dance! (If you've seen the average Australian man try to dance at clubs, it's the funniest thing you'll ever see!) I have a friend that used to compete in swing dancing competitions, and travelled to the States for the international finals. So, there's that nostalgia there that still exists, I think.
Yeah, I know. I just meant that some traditions last for a while! Hopefully, though, Australian women aren't getting a reputation for being desperate, just because of the way we're treated here!
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Perth definitely has the most beautiful women. I went there, for the Hopman Cup a few years ago, and I felt like I'd just walked into a large modelling agency! The girls there were tall, slim, with no make-up and cute clothes. I have a friend there who is totally gorgeous, too. I think in Melbourne, because it's so freezing in the Winter, we tend to be more book-worms, overall. But we can be stylish, too. The problem is, it's the home of AFL, so there are heaps of rowdy, drunken men all over the streets on the weekend, going on and on about the football!
No makeup? Nah ah...
I like Melbourne ladies, for some reason. They're stylish, naturally attractive, seem to have more personality. Rowdy men? Perth takes the cake for that one. Melbourne nightlife and people are so civilised by comparison.
I like Melbourne ladies, for some reason. They're stylish, naturally attractive, seem to have more personality. Rowdy men? Perth takes the cake for that one. Melbourne nightlife and people are so civilised by comparison.
Perth people are all so CONVENTIONAL too.
Well, they might just have the 'natural' look! Haha...I went there in summer, when it was like a heat-wave, so you can't really wear too much make-up. They just looked naturally beautiful, though! *girl-crush alert! * Haha...Well, Melbourne is meant to be the 'fashion capital' of Australia, even though the best designers are in Sydney (Sass & Bide, Alice McCall). We do have Saba and Bettina Liano, though...Yeah, I hear there are a few football fans in Perth, too these days. So, that always contributes to rowdiness!
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Well, they might just have the 'natural' look! Haha...I went there in summer, when it was like a heat-wave, so you can't really wear too much make-up. They just looked naturally beautiful, though! *girl-crush alert! * Haha...Well, Melbourne is meant to be the 'fashion capital' of Australia, even though the best designers are in Sydney (Sass & Bide, Alice McCall). We do have Saba and Bettina Liano, though...Yeah, I hear there are a few football fans in Perth, too these days. So, that always contributes to rowdiness!
There's no need to hide your lesbian leanings they've been pretty clear from your posts, as if you're trying to tell us something lol.
What do you mean, we've always had footy fans! We don't need footy to get riled up, just come out on a weekend night there's bound to be a blue. St. Kilda or Chapel Street are pretty tame compared to Northbridge, the Cross, Hindley Street.etc.
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