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According to them, every man you ask is a 'good guy,' which is why I take it with a grain of salt and say 'If you say so.' And you might actually be for all I know, but I don't so I'm going with 'most.' Again, if that doesn't fit you fine. Myself and a bunch of other women on here don't fit the gold digger stereotype that keeps being put out there by the men on here, do they care? no. Such is life.
And there are plenty of men who do not accuse all women of being golddiggers either.
But you did have options. You chose not to avail yourself of those options.
For the millionth time: just like most of these men that are being talked about in this thread don't consider hookers an 'option' most women don't consider 'FWB' or ONS an 'option.' It's essentially the same thing -- no option at all. But once again they always see their issues as pressing and women's as irrelevant. And by the way I've never been offered a FWB situation anyways, that was an example.
Yeah, ask her why that hasn't worked for her. Oh, wait, I'VE GOT IT! All men are PIGS and just want SEX!!! So, it IS 'different' because there is absolutely NO SUCH THING AS A GOOD MAN!
Obviously it's not going to work for me, I don't bother to put myself out there anymore.....I didn't say there's no such thing as a good man, stop putting words in my mouth. I said I don't beleive most of them are 'good guys' like they claim to be. That's not the same thing.
And there are plenty of men who do not accuse all women of being golddiggers either.
I seen some older and/or married men don't say that. but most of the single ones say the same things 'women want to go on dates and then don't even give them xyz at the end of the night,' or 'women expect men to pay each time b/c they're gold diggers.'
Obviously it's not going to work for me, I don't bother to put myself out there anymore.....I didn't say there's no such thing as a good man, stop putting words in my mouth. I said I don't beleive most of them are 'good guys' like they claim to be. That's not the same thing.
Dunno, but your attitude here seems to tell a different story. Cynical. Bitter. Jaded. All men are PIGS. All men want is SEX. All men objectify and degrade women. And so forth.
No, you may have never actually SAID those things BUT your ATTITUDE towards men says them.
Dunno, but your attitude here seems to tell a different story. Cynical. Bitter. Jaded. All men are PIGS. All men want is SEX. All men objectify and degrade women. And so forth.
No, you may have never actually SAID those things BUT your ATTITUDE towards men says them.
MOST of them do. I have come to see this about men over time, it's not like I popped out of the womb with these thoughts you know.
I hear you, but I tell guys all the time that all men pay for sex in one way or another. Men either pay directly or indirectly for sex.
For example, at brothels in Nevada (the only place where prostitution is legal), it cost from 500$ to 1000$+ for 1 hour with a lady.
On the other hand, if you meet a solid L.A 10 woman at a night club; after a few dinner dates, drinks, tickets to entertainment, and hotel cost (say, Hampton Inn) you have spent at least 600 bucks easy, albeit indirectly.
"hotel cost"? Who goes to a hotel on a date? Why use a 10 (representing a very small percent of the female population) as an example? Why not use a more typical example? How many of the incel type guys you write about could get a 10 anyway? This analysis is deliberately skewed, and not at all helpful to guys.
"hotel cost"? Who goes to a hotel on a date? Why use a 10 (representing a very small percent of the female population) as an example? Why not use a more typical example? How many of the incel type guys you write about could get a 10 anyway? This analysis is deliberately skewed, and not at all helpful to guys.
Hey, there are actually 'regular' guys out there who do not have any interest whatsoever in a '10'.
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Oh, wait, I'VE GOT IT! 
All men are PIGS and just want SEX!!! 
So, it IS 'different' because there is absolutely NO SUCH THING AS A GOOD MAN! 
