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its not a stretch. its the truth. I feel sorry for the very few women that have never had an orgasm. It is more likely due to them being inhibited beyond their ability to let go and really enjoy what mother nature gave them. More than likely, because of nonsense that others want you to believe in, like sex is a chore for women.
I was a sex addict for a while when I was younger. I love sex, porn, toys everything. But I am the exception, not the rule. I cant have an orgasm through vagina intercourse (so I am one of the 75%) and a lot of men dont feel like/aren't good at getting women there in other ways. It's unfortunate, it's a deal breaker for me, but a lot of women date/marry men who think they are playboys when really it's just not that important to the women so they dont make it a deal breaker. Women find things like being caring, having a good job, being a good father and husband and make those deal breakers, when things like-will give me oral sex (orgasms)-falls waaaaay down on the wish list.
Pretty sure if a man was dating a women who couldn't get him there, she'd be tossed to the curb without a second thought.
I was a sex addict for a while when I was younger. I love sex, porn, toys everything. But I am the exception, not the rule. I cant have an orgasm through vagina intercourse (so I am one of the 75%) and a lot of men dont feel like/aren't good at getting women there in other ways. It's unfortunate, it's a deal breaker for me, but a lot of women date/marry men who think they are playboys when really it's just not that important to the women so they dont make it a deal breaker. Women find things like being caring, having a good job, being a good father and husband and make those deal breakers, when things like-will give me oral sex (orgasms)-falls waaaaay down on the wish list.
Pretty sure if a man was dating a women who couldn't get him there, she'd be tossed to the curb without a second thought.
Sex is a dealbreaker for almost all women, because 99% of them would never date/marry a guy with erectile dysfunction issues. I know some women have issues with vaginal O, but there are so many different ways to get a woman off. If a woman has never been able to have vaginal or clitoral O, it would be odd for her to hold it against her current partner if thats what you mean. I find it odd that you say you love sex and everything that comes with it yet feel like youre the exception. I think its exactly the opposite but many women simply wont voice it or their partners suck in the bedroom. I dont know how a woman couldnt get a man there, as all it really takes for her is to spread her legs. There are some rare instances where lack of attraction comews into play, but why would a man be with someone whom he isnt attracted to. Provided, there is really alot more to womans sexual performance than spreading her legs and laying there like a plank, but most of the time that would suffice as well.
Sex is a dealbreaker for almost all women, because 99% of them would never date/marry a guy with erectile dysfunction issues. I know some women have issues with vaginal O, but there are so many different ways to get a woman off. If a woman has never been able to have vaginal or clitoral O, it would be odd for her to hold it against her current partner if thats what you mean. I find it odd that you say you love sex and everything that comes with it yet feel like youre the exception. I think its exactly the opposite but many women simply wont voice it or their partners suck in the bedroom. I dont know how a woman couldnt get a man there, as all it really takes for her is to spread her legs. There are some rare instances where lack of attraction comews into play, but why would a man be with someone whom he isnt attracted to. Provided, there is really alot more to womans sexual performance than spreading her legs and laying there like a plank, but most of the time that would suffice as well.
I am saying I am the exception because of the frequency I desire it and the fact that I dont need feelings/relationship.commitment to have sexual chemistry with someone. I am open to FWB and ONS because I dont always care so much about there being love or a relationship correlated with the act. It is just the act of having sex. What I am saying is that I would never date a man (no matter how good on paper) if he couldn't get me there. Where I think a lot of women would sacrifice some (not all) parts of sex in order to keep a man who fits her other criteria.
I am saying I am the exception because of the frequency I desire it and the fact that I dont need feelings/relationship.commitment to have sexual chemistry with someone. I am open to FWB and ONS because I dont always care so much about there being love or a relationship correlated with the act. It is just the act of having sex. What I am saying is that I would never date a man (no matter how good on paper) if he couldn't get me there. Where I think a lot of women would sacrifice some (not all) parts of sex in order to keep a man who fits her other criteria.
I dont think youre the exception at all when it comes to frequency you desire, but you are free enough to voice it. You would be an extremely rare exception for any human being, if emotions/feelings play no role in your sex life - in fact its alomost impossible, but ill take your word for it. If a woman is desperate enough, she may settle for a good provider type guy, who fulfills her other needs but does little in the bedroom department, but women who are attractive and often persued by multiple guys would never even dream of it. Its an absolutely crucial and needed part of every relation.
"I'm interested in you, I like you, I love you and may want to marry you and have kids darn it!" lol!
LMAO It wasn't quite like that.
It was more along the lines of I told him I was interested in him and highly attracted to him. I made it painfully obvious but not to the point of being overbearing.
Far too many people try to throw signals and hints which never get picked up on and then they go whining about why didn't the person realize they were interested. I live my life in all aspects being direct, to the point, and being brutally honest. Life is too short to play games. So I would much rather tell someone straight out I am interested instead of playing with my hair and giggling like a schoolgirl and hope that he gets it.
I tend to find men find it refreshing when you just say things directly. Too many women expect men to read their minds.
It was more along the lines of I told him I was interested in him and highly attracted to him. I made it painfully obvious but not to the point of being overbearing.
Far too many people try to throw signals and hints which never get picked up on and then they go whining about why didn't the person realize they were interested. I live my life in all aspects being direct, to the point, and being brutally honest. Life is too short to play games. So I would much rather tell someone straight out I am interested instead of playing with my hair and giggling like a schoolgirl and hope that he gets it.
I tend to find men find it refreshing when you just say things directly. Too many women expect men to read their minds.
No kidding. I don't know how people sit and wait and wonder. It makes me crazy not knowing. I just lay it all out there and take what comes. So much easier not to waste everyone's time.
I agree, of course every person should be able to say no to sex and dutiful sex does really stink, but I dont believe it should be used as a power grabbing tool, or thought of in terms of reward/penalty, as it so often is.
Of course it shouldn't, but I am not sure about the "so often" part. As you said, women enjoy sex as much as men do. It's not something we reluctantly give up only to control men.
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When sex becomes a chore, in my opinion, it is because the couple let it become stale, and didnt do enough to keep it fresh and full of variety.
Agreed.
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While I respect and appreciate your perspective as a woman, I have no need to be in tune with emotions and motives of every woman on this planet, to understand that womans sex drive is just as high, that she enjoys sex just as much if not more (notice which gender is usally more vocal during sex) and thinks about it as often throughout the day as men admittingly do.
Yet you seem to believe that women generally use sex as a weapon and that we are naturally manipulative and cunning because we are female. This is what I meant by being in tune with women far more than I am. Like I said, it's possible. I can't prove that I understand women better than you do.
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Spending time and effort on breaking down barriers of various inhibitions and social conditioning, will sometimes give you a glimpse of real male/female dynamics in a more natural and primal light. Besides, if we all agreed on everything, Im pretty sure CD relationships forums would be pretty blank.
Understanding why these inhibitions exist will help eliminate them. I told you what I thought was a normal and reasonable explanation why women might choose to be cautious; you believe instead that we do so to ensnare and manipulate men, or at least the ones who fall for it. Unless I misunderstand?
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