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Old 07-23-2012, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Northern Virginia
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If a kid grows up working class with fewer means, the won't expect as much from their parents and will find ways to do things him/herself.
Maybe. Or maybe they'll turn to drugs and gangs to have the group atmosphere they never got from a team or club. (I teach in a low income school where I've seen this happen, and it's really, really devastating to see).

Bottom line: Every child is different, and you have to raise them differently. But I would want the resources to be able to pay for things if my child were responsible enough and grateful for such activities or educational opportunities. It's easier to just plunk that money in a retirement account instead if the kid hasn't earned fully parentally-funded college education. It's much harder to realize that the kid HAS, but not to be able to pay for it. My mother-in-law still laments to me (10 years later) that she wishes she had been able to pay for my husband's school, so he hadn't had such a rough few years right out of school paying down loans. (Luckily he married me, and since I had no debt we were able to live very modestly and pay off all his debt within a few years. It would have been really rough on his own).

 
Old 07-23-2012, 09:20 AM
 
Location: The State Line
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Maybe. Or maybe they'll turn to drugs and gangs to have the group atmosphere they never got from a team or club. (I teach in a low income school where I've seen this happen, and it's really, really devastating to see).

Bottom line: Every child is different, and you have to raise them differently. But I would want the resources to be able to pay for things if my child were responsible enough and grateful for such activities or educational opportunities. It's easier to just plunk that money in a retirement account instead if the kid hasn't earned fully parentally-funded college education. It's much harder to realize that the kid HAS, but not to be able to pay for it. My mother-in-law still laments to me (10 years later) that she wishes she had been able to pay for my husband's school, so he hadn't had such a rough few years right out of school paying down loans. (Luckily he married me, and since I had no debt we were able to live very modestly and pay off all his debt within a few years. It would have been really rough on his own).
In retrospect, kids with money could also rebel, pick up on drugs, criminal acts and waste their life away, or not have their own jobs and live off their parents. Certain things are not limited to the poor. I guess I think it's great for a parent to do what they can. (My father helped, but I contributed also and paid everything myself when I went back to school for another degree.) That said, I think people sweat these things too much. People who say they need more money will always keep claiming they need more and more every year. The reality is that it's a never ending cylcle: they never get to a point of satisfaction until/unless they realize they should work with what they have and remembering how everything in life seems to sort itself out.
 
Old 07-23-2012, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Corydon, IN
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If you are worried about the financial and social burdens of having a kid, you aren't fit to be a parent.

Wow... this. Did you actually say these words?


I just pegged your age -- early 20's or very late teens. Only the voice of youthfully ignorant "I'm terribly worldwise" would utter such tripe.


I hope I get to remind you of this when you're 30 or 40.
 
Old 07-23-2012, 09:36 AM
 
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I will not diginify this with a response.
I wouldn't dignify this thread with a response, to be honest.
 
Old 07-23-2012, 09:38 AM
 
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If you are worried about the financial and social burdens of having a kid, you aren't fit to be a parent.
Are you being serious? So parents who think about how their finances may be restricted once having kids are bad parents? Who knew that responsible individuals planning for the future are not fit to be parents, odd.
 
Old 07-23-2012, 09:48 AM
 
Location: City of Angels
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getting a wife and kids strikes me as an incredibly boring and lonely life. prison-like almost. i don't know why anyone would do that to themselves. i prefer my freedom. i want to enjoy life.
 
Old 07-23-2012, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Middle America
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I'm confused...does everyone collectively think because someone doesn't want to get married, they obviously dont believe in monogamy? Is their no other option? Like they just might not believe in the institution itself?
No. But if that's the case, it's a strong argument for choosing not to enter into a traditional marriage situation, obviously. If I had to take a stab in the dark at why people who choose to remain single choose to remain single, I'd put "Not interested in putting another person's needs before my own" ahead of "Don't like the idea of monogamy," to be honest. Based on nothing but anecdotal observation, I'm guessing the former is probably the most common.
 
Old 07-23-2012, 10:02 AM
 
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I wouldn't dignify this thread with a response, to be honest.
You just did.
 
Old 07-23-2012, 10:02 AM
 
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If you are worried about the financial and social burdens of having a kid, you aren't fit to be a parent.
Others seem to be attacking this post consistently, but I feel the message is being misinterpreted. What it looks like to me is that he is saying that a person who uses financial and social burdens as an excuse to not want children shouldn't have any. Children will undoubtedly place an added strain on a persons finance and social life. For most people there is NEVER a perfect time to have children. People have them and raise them the best they can. That's the reward some people feel is worth the experience.
 
Old 07-23-2012, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Huntersville/Charlotte, NC and Washington, DC
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I aw the prices of medical insurance for a family when I signed up for it. THAT alone scares me off for reproducing.
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