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Old 09-21-2012, 11:37 AM
 
Location: over there --->
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I've said that to someone before and I'm female
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Old 09-21-2012, 11:43 AM
 
Location: SF CA, USA
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It's a form of masculine shaming.
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Old 09-21-2012, 11:45 AM
 
Location: NC
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The guy is a jerk and a lost cause. If he is in competition with other men in the group and is trying to belittle his competition in such way, it simply means that he is insecure and finds himself inadequate. Very insensitive thing to say and it is insulting to everyone, including the man saying it.
I totally agree with this comment (but think we need to cut the jerk some slack, because we know his only goal in life is to get laid, and he was just doing whatever it took...)

(Jokes aside, I agree with Ascension's comment, 100%)
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Old 09-21-2012, 11:48 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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worse in what way, playing baseball, using a urinal? philosophy? Little bit more detail...
It was just a general put down. There were no specifics other than the weather was getting a little cooler in the early evening and the guy who was the target of the insult went to his car, got a sweatshirt, and put it on. That's what prompted the "He's worse than a woman" put down. There was no alcohol involved. We were at an outdoor public event. You have to go into the bar to drink, which we hadn't done yet at that point.
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Old 09-21-2012, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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I'll throw this out there for c-d's opinions...

Mixed-gender group hanging out. A guy turns to the woman on his right and insults another guy in the group by saying to her, "He's worse than a woman," and rolls his eyes. The woman was upset about the insult which she thought puts down women as well as the guy he was intending to insult. The guy tells her to lighten up, she doesn't have a sense of humor.

Is the guy a jerk? Or is the woman overly sensitive? What say you, c-d?
His only error was saying that to a woman.

[i would have laughed]
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Old 09-21-2012, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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Of course, those kinds of comments can be interpreted a putting down women. Being a woman isn't a character flaw, but sometimes that's what it sounds like when men (and some women) throw around the words. As if the worst thing that can happen to a person is to be a woman, or women are inherently inferior, weak, ridiculous, or out of control. Guys are called "manginas" or asked if they need a tampon; people throw, run, or cry like a girl. None of it's flattering.
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Old 09-21-2012, 12:11 PM
 
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I think it's equivalent of calling a straight man a f*g because of a certain choice or behaviour. It's a way to emasculate a guy at the expense of others deemed "inferior."
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Old 09-21-2012, 12:11 PM
 
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Ive heard similar comments that I didnt see much wrong with, because they werent so extreme. Ive heard women say the same thing to men. They'll say "he acts just like a woman." Or "quit being such a girly man"...I think that in most societies, both men and women on some levels aspire to be what is generally defined as masculine/tough. And when people, man or woman, fall short of that, they are viewed as less masculine. Which is fine, but comments like the one made to the man in the story (wherein the words "worse than" are used) are typically rooted in a warped mentality of macho/machismo, rather than baseline masculinity - which can be detrimental to all.
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Old 09-21-2012, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Lehighton/Jim Thorpe area
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It was just a general put down. There were no specifics other than the weather was getting a little cooler in the early evening and the guy who was the target of the insult went to his car, got a sweatshirt, and put it on. That's what prompted the "He's worse than a woman" put down. There was no alcohol involved. We were at an outdoor public event. You have to go into the bar to drink, which we hadn't done yet at that point.
Meh. I would have laughed.

He's also not wrong: women tend to be colder than men because of our typical body composition.

Men vs. Women, Hot vs. Cold - ABC News
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Old 09-21-2012, 12:15 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Ive heard similar comments that I didnt see much wrong with, because they werent so extreme. Ive heard women say the same thing to men. They'll say "he acts just like a woman." Or "quit being such a girly man"...I think that in most societies, both men and women on some levels aspire to be what is generally defined as masculine/tough. And when people, man or woman, fall short of that, they are viewed as less masculine. Which is fine, but comments like the one made to the man in the story (wherein the words "worse than" are used) are typically rooted in a warped mentality of macho/machismo, rather than baseline masculinity - which can be detrimental to all.
The comment wasn't made to the man who put on a sweatshirt. It was made to the woman sitting to the insulter's right. The guy who the insult was aimed at never even heard it.
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