People getting married is on the decline (how to, men, husband)
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Right now the trend line for marriage is downward, and I'm sure it will continue for a reason that nobody has mentioned. Divorce laws and courts are very much weighed in favor of the wife. Because of this, there is a growing trend of men who have no interest in getting married and then cleaned out by the exwife years later. Not only that but in many men's opinions, women change after marriage, and you don't get what you bargained for. Many see women as self centered people who expect the whole family to cater to what they want and what makes me happy. The "if momma ain't happy, ain't nobody going to be happy thing". Lots of men don't want to be a doormat for their wife, so they say no to marriage.
Now don't flame me, I'm just reporting what I see going on.
Right now the trend line for marriage is downward, and I'm sure it will continue for a reason that nobody has mentioned. Divorce laws and courts are very much weighed in favor of the wife. Because of this, there is a growing trend of men who have no interest in getting married and then cleaned out by the exwife years later. Not only that but in many men's opinions, women change after marriage, and you don't get what you bargained for. Many see women as self centered people who expect the whole family to cater to what they want and what makes me happy. The "if momma ain't happy, ain't nobody going to be happy thing". Lots of men don't want to be a doormat for their wife, so they say no to marriage.
Now don't flame me, I'm just reporting what I see going on.
Statistically it's women who are bucking the marriage trend but don't let reality get in the way of your biased, misogynistic views
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Originally Posted by dave nz
I only see the decline continuing in our lifetimes.
Agree or disagree?
Agree. I think the rate will decline for a while then bottom out and stay stagnant.
I would hope the reason is that people are carefully considering the ramifications of marriage and deciding that ultimately a LTR or not marrying right away may be more benefical for their wants and needs. I think if there is one thing that is perfectly fine to overthink, it is getting married.
The decline of marriage is directly related to the rise of. . .
narcissism within a culture that sees a decline in marriage. In any society and/or culture where lack of empathy and compassion (in general) along with a rise in the power of the state* and a diminishing adherance to what use to be social morals and ethics will ultimately lead to a decline in an institution that requires far more than any two people joined together could be strong enough to maintain on their own.
*As noted: a rise in the power of the state. The same state that certifies marriage licenses also works directly against maintaining marriage in the sense that their is no direct benefit for either party (man or woman) to get married when the state through the power of taxation as well as enforcement of child support laws enables a woman to have an equal quality of life or better than she could have while being married along with every other aspect of life being regulated, controlled and even financed through the taxing power of the state - and the effects on what use to be a mutually beneficial union between two people that in most cases, procreated and maintained that union because a higher cause (the offspring) kept them together far longer than they normally would have without the children.
Also, important to add. I think in the coming decades (at least in the US) - marriage as currently legally defined in 2012 will only involve the higher economic classes (top 4%) in which a man is able to afford to still maintain the traditional roles previously percieved as normal in terms of marriage and that will include being a provider, a wife that stays at home in some capacity to raise the children, the ability to provide for the children well into adulthood (including funding college while the remaining 90 - 96% of the population increasingly uses governent aid), as well as retirement for both spouses in the absence of divorce being a practical possibility. There will more than likely be a select segment of citizens that will still see a benefit in marriage but the majority will by that time have learned to live off of the state through the myriad of different ways that are evolving that make marriage obsolete. And as a result, the concept surrounding romantic love will cease to exist for classes that cannot afford such a luxury and abstain from it.
I actually don't see this in my social circle. What I do see is that people are marrying in their late 20's and 30's. Most of my friends got married in the last few years when they were in their early to mid 30's. I just see people taking their time and not getting married until they have really found the right person.
Right now the trend line for marriage is downward, and I'm sure it will continue for a reason that nobody has mentioned. Divorce laws and courts are very much weighed in favor of the wife. Because of this, there is a growing trend of men who have no interest in getting married and then cleaned out by the exwife years later. Not only that but in many men's opinions, women change after marriage, and you don't get what you bargained for. Many see women as self centered people who expect the whole family to cater to what they want and what makes me happy. The "if momma ain't happy, ain't nobody going to be happy thing". Lots of men don't want to be a doormat for their wife, so they say no to marriage.
Now don't flame me, I'm just reporting what I see going on.
Of course you're going to get flamed by the feminazis on this board (but you already knew that).
There are 2 ways to succeed in marriage these days: be a whipping boy or marry a girl from another country while staying in that country.
Statistically it's women who are bucking the marriage trend but don't let reality get in the way of your biased, misogynistic views
How is it misogynistic to put out the courts are biased in favor of women? Those are the realities and that gives a man a huge disincentive to marry.
Both sides are dropping which is why the average age of first marriage rises for both men and women and the number of unmarried men and women also rise.
HOORAY! Freak this marriage fiasco. I'm so tired of my peers worried about marrying when they can't even have a decent relationship with themselves. So stupid. I for one, am not rushing into marriage and heck, I more than likely WILL NOT get married. I really have 0% interest in it right now. Freak it, make it -50 percent interest in it. I'm 26, have a girlfriend and like where I am right now. The only person I want to "settle down" with is myself and make sure I get my ish together. I rather be alone and happy in the future then miserable and with miserable company. BLAH.
How is it misogynistic to put out the courts are biased in favor of women? Those are the realities and that gives a man a huge disincentive to marry.
The money part is the single BIGGEST deterrent to marriage. The hurt from a broken marriage will fade. The extraction of money won't.
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