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The point I was trying to make in my rush today was that another generation will always be critical of next.
But sometimes a generation gets criticized for doing something or having an attitude that was present in the previous but people tend to have rose colored glasses about the past.
What you said at the end of your other statement can apply to you, your parents, and their parents.
Sometimes that's the truth, and it's a fact it's gone on since time immemorial.
But sometimes it's not a question of right or wrong, or even of criticizing the generation in question. Rather, it's observation. Each generation is NOT a repeat of the one prior; even things as commonplace as the technology of the day see to that. The majority of the kids growing up with a grain thresher will never know the drear and backache of a scythe. It's a GOOD thing, but it's also undeniable that the mental effects of that scythe's endless hours on a person's development WERE one thing, while the lesser time with the newfangled contraption which will be devoted to other activities WILL affect them differently.
The hootenanny has gone the way of the dodo and such frequent social gatherings, different in nature, haven't got the same effect as modern clubs with lights and deafening noise and near-Stygian darkness in shifting pockets of pseudo-privacy.
Watching Candy Samples mimic oral sex because actual penetration was illegal on the screen, once enough to drive teens and young men half berserk, now seems more than silly compared to watching the latest in a flood of shooting starlets who take the biggest, weirdest, hardest, nastiest things they can find in every available orifice. Back then finding men willing to perform on screen was relatively limited because of the social impropriety among the general populace because pornography was NOT mainstream. The figures in those films seemed generally "average" in both looks and endowments, with the notable exceptions. Porn was not a thing to be emulated, neither in lifestyle nor in persona. These days I hear children -- children -- who are growing up quite literally believing that if you're not packing 10" you're inadequate!
Nope, no harm there, not from the porn, not from the music that emulates it, not from any of the misguided sources who bank on sensationalism. Is that in and of itself new? Also no. But that "information superhighway" carries MISinformation just as quickly as it does information. Therein lies a difficulty.
I don't even say it's a BAD thing, necessarily; but it's undeniable that later gens of kids are growing up with different "answers" than those enjoyed by their forebears.
Yes, I think the sex industry has affected men's minds, especially younger men's. Years ago, if a teenager wanted to look at "naked ladies," he sneaked into his older brother's room and stole his Playboy, or he waited until his parents were asleep and saw what he could see in a scrambled signal of Cinemax at 2:00 a.m. Chances are what he was looking at was just nude women, maybe some sex between clipped but not shaven adults who were not surgically enhanced.
I know for sure that the one thing porn has affected is that young boys now approach women LESS in real life because they can get their sexual relief from porn.
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Nowadays, porn featuring grossly enhanced, otherwise prepubescent-looking women with no pubic hair performing extreme sex acts involving violence, eating feces, vomiting, gagging, or worse is available at the click of a button. I do think that it has given young men who grew up on this stuff a skewed idea of what to expect from their flesh-and-blood girlfriends, as well as a warped idea of what turns real women on and even how to interact with women. Years ago, if you caught your son looking at porn, you just had to tell him, "Remember, those women are airbrushed and your real girlfriend will have imperfections."
I still don't see what the problem is because everything that you said was going on long before sex was being recorded on video.
Oh, and porn in the 1950 up into the 80's were actually very natural girls with hardly any enhancements. This is why they look "chubby" and "thick" compared to the girls today.
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Now you have to tell him, "Remember, those women are only acting and even if your real girlfriend wants to try anal sex, she certainly will not want to go down on you immediately afterward nor will she want to have regular sex until you wash up because she will get an infection otherwise, nor does she want you choking her, slapping her face, or punching her. What you were just looking at is about as real as Underworld."
My last GF LIKED to be choked and slapped during sex and there are lots of women that like to be "manhandled" during sex. In fact, I never met a woman who wanted gentle lovemaking sex each and every time she had sex. Women sure like power and control, but during sex, women like to be put in their place!!!!
But there is a flipside to this: I think it has warped young women's minds, too. I think it has taught them that to get male attention, they have to push the extremes, even if it means pain or discomfort or degrading themselves. I think the modern sex industry is why you see straight girls making out with each other in bars just to get men's attention, and I think it feeds into the kind of self-loathing exhibited in extreme surgical modification.
In this day and age where women can get jobs and support themselves, nobody is forcing women to dress a certain way. Women today are simply making the CHOICE to dress how they like and that's that.
Sometimes that's the truth, and it's a fact it's gone on since time immemorial.
But sometimes it's not a question of right or wrong, or even of criticizing the generation in question. Rather, it's observation. Each generation is NOT a repeat of the one prior; even things as commonplace as the technology of the day see to that. The majority of the kids growing up with a grain thresher will never know the drear and backache of a scythe. It's a GOOD thing, but it's also undeniable that the mental effects of that scythe's endless hours on a person's development WERE one thing, while the lesser time with the newfangled contraption which will be devoted to other activities WILL affect them differently.
The hootenanny has gone the way of the dodo and such frequent social gatherings, different in nature, haven't got the same effect as modern clubs with lights and deafening noise and near-Stygian darkness in shifting pockets of pseudo-privacy.
Watching Candy Samples mimic oral sex because actual penetration was illegal on the screen, once enough to drive teens and young men half berserk, now seems more than silly compared to watching the latest in a flood of shooting starlets who take the biggest, weirdest, hardest, nastiest things they can find in every available orifice. Back then finding men willing to perform on screen was relatively limited because of the social impropriety among the general populace because pornography was NOT mainstream. The figures in those films seemed generally "average" in both looks and endowments, with the notable exceptions. Porn was not a thing to be emulated, neither in lifestyle nor in persona. These days I hear children -- children -- who are growing up quite literally believing that if you're not packing 10" you're inadequate!
Nope, no harm there, not from the porn, not from the music that emulates it, not from any of the misguided sources who bank on sensationalism. Is that in and of itself new? Also no. But that "information superhighway" carries MISinformation just as quickly as it does information. Therein lies a difficulty.
I don't even say it's a BAD thing, necessarily; but it's undeniable that later gens of kids are growing up with different "answers" than those enjoyed by their forebears.
Trust I have see the horrors and misinformation the internet provides. It even hit my self esteem for a while and deluded my thinking. But now with the same information and retrospect I came to terms with things and understand stuff better. We have to see how the generation who grew up with the internet goes on to show the next what to expect.
I know for sure that the one thing porn has affected is that young boys now approach women LESS in real life because they can get their sexual relief from porn.
I still don't see what the problem is because everything that you said was going on long before sex was being recorded on video.
Oh, and porn in the 1950 up into the 80's were actually very natural girls with hardly any enhancements. This is why they look "chubby" and "thick" compared to the girls today.
My last GF LIKED to be choked and slapped during sex and there are lots of women that like to be "manhandled" during sex. In fact, I never met a woman who wanted gentle lovemaking sex each and every time she had sex. Women sure like power and control, but during sex, women like to be put in their place!!!!
In this day and age where women can get jobs and support themselves, nobody is forcing women to dress a certain way. Women today are simply making the CHOICE to dress how they like and that's that.
This is much more of a statement about the types of women that YOU attract than it is about what we as women like during sex.
I have no idea where the misconception that women only like to have romantic and gentle sex comes from. More than likely it is men that are with women that are sexually boring, and they cannot admit to themselves that there are actually women out there that take things to the next level of orgasmic evolution and/or that they have never met women like that. As well as women that think if they do anything other than just having regular sex that it might mean they are like women in porn videos.
I've been with women that do about 70-80% of what women in porn do, and they want to and enjoy it. The chokers are all out there, and that is just the beginning of what they are into. And most of the time, it has been the ones that I though were least likely to be like that and then they would surprise me.
It's hard to elaborate on it all without my post getting cut by a moderator and/or deleted completely but most (not all) of the things that happen in porn, occurr in regular sex lives, but people either just do not want to admit it or do not talk about it with others because they are unsure if they will be receptive to it.
I was in a relationship at one point, where the woman I was with appeared to be a regular, conservative, Christian, daddy's princess-type that went to Bible study once a week and church. Fast forward a few months into the relationship and her inner porn star started to surface. By her suggestion and request, we had to even start having "rape night" occasionally and I was like WTF. There I was standing in line at Home Depot reading the text she sent to make sure I got everything as I was holding a roll of duct tape and utiltity rope, wondering if it would be hard to find a ski mask at the sporting goods store despite the fact that it was June. She was totally out of control but not even as bad as most of the other women I have been with.
Choking is pretty standard these days as well as using the other part and yeah, that involves ATM. For the women that do not do that - my only advice would be, try to keep things cleaner back there. Colon hyrdrotherapy might be the answer. And I've rarely met a woman that is not down for some facial lotion being applied, with most actually expecting it. I'm not the one that is necessarily down for porn-induced sex when these things are being suggested by the women that I am with. It works though and I don't complain when it time to do anything. I always look at it this way: there were probably more than a few guys before me that didn't know what to do with her cl*t and were unable to take her to the next level of orgasmic evolution, so if and when she is ready and actually into porn related acts - cool, lets redefine the meaning of the word orgasm over 20 different ways. Life is short.
I think the line where porn crosses over into real life needs to be drawn right about at the point of gangbangs and anything involving urination and/or bowel movements because basically, there is nothing sexually hot about that stuff.
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porn industry has affected male and female behavior.
it has programmed men to think that sex is the most important thing a woman brings to a relationship and by doing so, men and women expect much much less of women than we did 40 years ago.
this tidbit of info accounts for a 67% divorce rate.
This is much more of a statement about the types of women that YOU attract than it is about what we as women like during sex.
Not really because it's not possible to specifically attract women with odd sexual desires unless you post an advertisement in a paper specifically asking for it (which I did not do).
I'm telling you (because you don't date women), women like rough sex.... Even most of my friends confirmed this after we compared notes about our girlfriends...
Not really because it's not possible to specifically attract women with odd sexual desires unless you post an advertisement in a paper specifically asking for it (which I did not do).
I'm telling you (because you don't date women), women like rough sex.... Even most of my friends confirmed this after we compared notes about our girlfriends...
What she means(I think), is that by your use of the words "put them in their place" in your post, is that you don't seem like you have an initially favorable view of women to begin with, so that you are attracting women that have esteem issues who think they must participate in these sorts of activities to maintain a relationship.
For every guy that has posted here that women are in to the rape fantasy, blah, blah, blah....they all seem to have a marginalized view of women. If you really think all women want to be "put in their place", you are petty disconnected.
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