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Old 01-11-2013, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Women are much more passive than men. They generally don't like to be in charge. There are some exceptions though.
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Old 01-11-2013, 08:29 AM
 
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What is the OP's definition of "submissive"? Let's start there.
submissive - definition of submissive by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

Maybe the 'obedient' part isn't as prominent, but the parts about being passive, deferring to their man (letting him do the talking.etc), acquiesing to him in order not to cause a scene.
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Old 01-11-2013, 08:31 AM
 
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most of the guys that i've been interested in were a higher mental and physical intelligence than my own so automatically i stood behind them. why would i order someone around that was in a higher competition level than my own? that just doesn't make sense to do that. i don't know any women that have physicals that are more powerful than a guys'.
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Old 01-11-2013, 08:34 AM
 
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It all depends on the environment you were raised in. If you had a mother who was the breadwinner, career-oriented, head manager type who made all of her own decisions about her household, her children, her finances and career, then most likely the children they raise will emulate that same mentality (regardless of gender).

Helicopter moms who are over-protective and submissive to their husbands, will often raise children who tend to be cautious, less opinionated and submissive (regardless of gender).

Dont think its as gender-specific as it is ones environment
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Old 01-11-2013, 08:35 AM
 
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I see exactly zero evidence of this.
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Old 01-11-2013, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Maybe the 'obedient' part isn't as prominent, but the parts about being passive, deferring to their man (letting him do the talking.etc), acquiesing to him in order not to cause a scene.
Wow, this is so completely opposite of how I (and probably all of my friends) act. I can't think of a submissive one in the bunch. Maybe I just prefer to associate with women like this - I can't really relate to a passive/obedient woman. I was raised in a household of strong, assertive, out-spoken women who can play ball in the "man's world." I am raising my daughter to be strong and assertive as well.

I think much of "submissive programming" can be attributed to environmental influence, which is apparent when you compare how women act in different countries, and even in different social circles in the same town.
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Old 01-11-2013, 08:43 AM
 
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I see exactly zero evidence of this.
Are you blind?
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Old 01-11-2013, 08:44 AM
 
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Maybe you see this behaviour among women in some extreme conservative Christian communities but out in the real world, like somebodynew said, I have not witnessed it. Even in families where the wife is a SAHM, the relationship is not one of subjugation.

I assume this is something you have read about or just invented, not something you have seen in real life, correct?
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Old 01-11-2013, 08:47 AM
 
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I see exactly zero evidence of this.
Except for the post two up from yours where she says she's been submissive.
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Old 01-11-2013, 08:49 AM
 
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most of the guys that i've been interested in were a higher mental and physical intelligence than my own so automatically i stood behind them. why would i order someone around that was in a higher competition level than my own? that just doesn't make sense to do that. i don't know any women that have physicals that are more powerful than a guys'.
So opposite of how I think. I've never, ever worried that a guy is more "physical/powerful" than me and that I must be submissive to him. I also think I'm of equal intelligence, so I prefer equal partnership with a guy. If I somehow ran into a guy that was a "higher mental state" in some area, e.g. Albert Einstein, maybe I wouldn't challenge him on physics but challenge him in other areas. On second thought, I probably would continually ask him physics "Why" questions so I could learn more, and he would get annoyed with me.
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