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Old 01-15-2013, 12:43 PM
 
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This is all very true, and probably the best post of this thread. This is the type of thing that can cause numbers of eligible single people to skew for certain demographics, though nowhere near a 4:1 kind of thing.

One thing about Chicago (the city itself, not the suburbs) is that all city employees are required to live in the city. The male city employees tend to be things like cops, firefighters, sanitation workers, etc. The female city employees are far more likely to be teachers, who have at least bachelor's degrees, and often master's degrees or higher. This makes Chicago a nice place to date if you're a single educated guy who likes educated women.
Thanks. It all comes back to "types." And there can be different types within a "7," for example.

In metro Seattle, the variability of what women look like BY AREA is astounding, and people KNOW it. If you are in the Bellevue and Kirkland areas and sitting there at a coffee house, attractive women will be walking in. That's where the more conservative, educated crowd lives, as well as the transplants who don't need to make a liberal PacNW statement. If you are in a coffee house way up on the north end (Lynnwood) or the south end (Federal Way), you will not see as many attractive women, because the areas are banal. If you are in a coffee house in Wallingford, which is loaded with Subarus, you will not see any attractive women.

I'm sure the same is true of Chicago. You wouldn't be "working" some dive bar in Blue Island down south.
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Old 01-15-2013, 12:45 PM
 
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So the 20/80 thing makes no sense.
No, but the skewing does. It's just not as skewed as 20/80.
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Old 01-15-2013, 12:49 PM
 
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No, but the skewing does. It's just not as skewed as 20/80.
So, how about instead of pulling numbers out of asses, someone explain what they are trying to say.
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Old 01-15-2013, 12:52 PM
 
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So, how about instead of pulling numbers out of asses, someone explain what they are trying to say.
80/20 is more of a principle than an exact distribution. It comes from something called the pareto principle, from an Italian economist

Pareto principle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

not so much out of rectums
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Old 01-15-2013, 12:55 PM
 
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80/20 comes from something called the pareto principle

Pareto principle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

not so much out of rectums
So someone has taken a model intended for economics and business, and has applied it to dating? Then believes it to be an accurate representation of reality? Typical C-D.
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Old 01-15-2013, 12:56 PM
 
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80/20 comes from something called the pareto principle, from an Italian economist

Pareto principle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

not so much out of rectums
Taught in school, in various curricula. Generally, it's about expending effort and where to put one's eggs, more so than sex.
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Old 01-15-2013, 12:56 PM
 
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80/20 comes from something called the pareto principle

Pareto principle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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But what does it have to do with relationships?
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Old 01-15-2013, 12:58 PM
 
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So someone has taken a model intended for economics and business, and has applied it to dating? Then believes it to be an accurate representation of reality? Typical C-D.
it's a principle intended for markets, and dating is a market of sorts.


but it is relevant in many different fields .... for example, from the article you didn't read:

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In software

In computer science and engineering control theory such as for electromechanical energy converters, the Pareto principle can be applied to optimization efforts.[10] For example, Microsoft noted that by fixing the top 20% of the most reported bugs, 80% of the errors and crashes would be eliminated.[11]



Occupational health and safety

The Pareto principle is used in occupational health and safety to underline the importance of hazard prioritization. Assuming 20% of the hazards will account for 80% of the injuries and by categorizing hazards, safety professionals can target those 20% of the hazards that cause 80% of the injuries or accidents. Alternatively, if hazards are addressed in random order, then a safety professional is more likely to fix one of the 80% of hazards which account for just 20% of the injuries.[12]


In the systems science discipline, Epstein and Axtell created an agent-based simulation model called SugarScape, from a decentralized modeling approach, based on individual behavior rules defined for each agent in the economy. Wealth distribution and Pareto's 80/20 principle became emergent in their results, which suggests the principle is a natural phenomenon.[14]

The Pareto principle has many applications in quality control.[citation needed] It is the basis for the Pareto chart, one of the key tools used in total quality control and six sigma. The Pareto principle serves as a baseline for ABC-analysis and XYZ-analysis, widely used in logistics and procurement for the purpose of optimizing stock of goods, as well as costs of keeping and replenishing that stock.[15]

The Pareto principle was a prominent part of the 2007 The 4-Hour Workweek by Tim Ferriss. Ferriss recommended focusing one's attention on those 20% of customers who contribute 80% of the income. More notably, he also recommends 'firing' – refusing to do business with – those 20% of customers who take up the majority of one's time and cause the most trouble.[16]

In health care in the United States, 20% of patients have been found to use 80% of health care resources.[17]

Several criminology studies have found 80% of crimes are committed by 20% of criminals.[18]
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Old 01-15-2013, 12:59 PM
 
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I'm sure it's been posted already. But here is is again (btw more women than men):

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(time spent to google? about two minutes including this post )

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Old 01-15-2013, 01:00 PM
 
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But what does it have to do with relationships?
well it's mainly about sex, not relationships.

it applies in the sense that we were talking about , the patterns of behavior you see among young (mainly 18-25 y/o) people having sex.
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