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You don't need PUA to know how to properly communicate with people. It's just common sense.
It's not common sense for everybody. There are definitely people out there (the vast majority, from what I've seen) that don't know how to effectively communicate their intentions.
Take the first poster of the fourth page on this thread, for example. He could certainly benefit from PUA-related materials.
It's not common sense for everybody. There are definitely people out there (the vast majority, from what I've seen) that don't know how to effectively communicate their intentions.
Take this guy, for example. He could certainly benefit from PUA-related materials.
Just learning confidence and proper social skills are enough.
PUA is just nothing but misguided propaganda that manipulates others.
The problem with this statement, as always when this subject comes up on this forum, is that it's based on a fundamental misunderstanding of what PUA is.
One of its main functions is to teach confidence and proper social skills. Confidence is not gained overnight though. And there are many successful men out there that still lack confidence with women.
For guys that are severely behind the curve, it will take a decent amount of time to learn proper social skills. That's who really needs this stuff.
Do we really have a whole thread here of people arguing about what "game" is?
This is why I hardly post in this section anymore. Topics that could foster some good discussion and understanding on both sides gets sidetracked by petty highschool bull**** by people looking to massage their own personal biases.
I have a friend that's 32, maybe slightly above average looking, and lives at home with his mom. The only thing he has going for him really is his height (he's about 6'2), his intelligence (which he doesn't put to good use), and his......GAME.
He gets more hot girls than anybody I've ever met. One of his girlfriends is a 26 year old former model with a degree in biochemistry and her own business.
I have other friends that are in similar situations, but this is the most drastic.
Explain this, based on your theory.
So your tall and intelligent friend, who is not so hard on the eyes, was able to land an attractive girlfriend. Ok so that proves exactly what everyone was saying...
I'm not sure where you are based but I can assure you in a place like NYC, which is teaming with good looking people, the norm is for attractive women to be with attractive (or powerful or rich or connected, etc) men. I can think of a handful of exceptions where a "hot woman" is dating a loser but those are exceptions to the rule. Quite frankly, I think those situations happen when the woman has self esteem issues (yes, it can happen with attractive women). They "date down" because they feel this type of many would be less likely to leave them. But in general, attractive women have OPTIONS and people with options usually pick the best one.
Edit: your tall and intelligent friend, who is not so hard on the eyes, was able to land an attractive girlfriend BUT he is also manipulative and conniving. So the only way that these types of guys can get women is to manipulate them? Also, the women most likely to fall for this are the ones with self esteem issues so what you're saying is PUA are basically praying on women with fragile minds and emotions. Sounds really healthy.
So, in a nutshell, losers can get hot women with self esteem issues if they pray on and manipulate them. Got it.
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