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Old 11-12-2018, 10:15 PM
 
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Interesting I would say is subjective and related to what an individual finds interesting. Two bird watching 60 year olds might find each other fascinating and interesting. Two musicians might do the same. A cook and an eater might be interesting to each other.

If that's the premise, why would being "nice" and being "interesting" be mutually exclusive?


Unless, in an effort to be "nice" and not be disliked for anything, a "nice guy" never shows his cards on what he likes or dislikes. Commonality can't be built on shared interests, because he never shares his interests.
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Old 11-12-2018, 11:30 PM
 
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Yeah, I've met quite a few guys who are actually either passive-aggressive or very insecure (and act like doormats) who think they're "nice." Like guys who will do favors for you (often things you didn't ask them to do) and then act like you owe them something. And others who are genuinely nice but don't seem to understand that there's more to attraction and a fulfilling relationship than that. I don't get the attitude from some guys that you either have to be a doormat or a jerk. I guess being a one-dimensional character is easier for some people than actually developing an interesting personality.
The passive aggressive guys who do favors without asking: Beta male!
Women like guys who are nice - to a certain point. The ideal guy IMO is cordial and polite, yet have some roughness around the edges. He walks with his head up, chest out - won't give a damn what others think. He won't sweat the small stuff, but crowd him or disrespect him and you're in for it!
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Old 11-13-2018, 12:13 AM
 
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Doubtful that’s universally true for you. That sounds like self-pity and self-sabotage.
Wouldn't I be sabotaging myself by wasting my time around women who want nothing to do with me?
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Old 11-13-2018, 04:04 AM
 
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You know...these "nice guy" threads seem to go on forever and ever, every time I see one it's a non-stop thread-after-thread discussion.

Let's just end it by saying that some people (women in this post), just don't appreciate the nice things done for them.

This is why you hear these women (not all) make poor choices in men that give them black eyes and bruises, cheat on them, substance abuse, and so on. But a law abiding, non-abusive, non-rap sheet kind of guy is "boring".

I have female friend that prefers "boring in a man" yes, some women are okay with boring. Usually it's after years of abuse and they woke up and decided to date a nice guy.

I feel like I even have to put "nice guy" in quotes because I think everyone has their own interpretation of it and for some reason, people can think THEIR interpretation is the right one. Thus these never ending arguments.
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Old 11-13-2018, 04:34 AM
 
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I don't have a problem with "nice guys."

I only have a problem when people are being nice for manipulation purposes.
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Old 11-13-2018, 05:34 AM
 
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I don't have a problem with "nice guys."

I only have a problem when people are being nice for manipulation purposes.
Boom, THANK you! lol
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Old 11-13-2018, 05:46 AM
 
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I feel like this thread was made to demonise nice guys because they spoke up on how they are treated by women. So people make up this nonsense that nice guys aren't really nice.
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Old 11-13-2018, 06:04 AM
 
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There are a few of this type on this subforum.

Entitlement ALWAYS makes itself known.
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Old 11-13-2018, 06:11 AM
 
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Wouldn't I be sabotaging myself by wasting my time around women who want nothing to do with me?
No, that would just be wasting your time and possibly being creepy. Definitely a good way to friendzone yourself.

Sabotaging yourself is walking around convinced that you’ll never be good enough for anyone at all. Immediate and irrevocable self-rejection. You’re scared of her rejecting you so you beat her to the punch every time.
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Old 11-13-2018, 06:19 AM
 
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I feel like this thread was made to demonise nice guys because they spoke up on how they are treated by women. So people make up this nonsense that nice guys aren't really nice.
100% on this. I see a lot of this in this divided country.
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