Could you be with a woman who didn't like sex? (different, relation)
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Well if she said it just 'feels like pressure' and that doesn't feel good -- how can you determine it's not a good or a bad thing? She just told you it was (to HER). ....In my opinion, you either like a feeling or you don't and if you're above the age of 10 you know which is which, LOL.
I didn't see her thread from yesterday, so I have no idea what she was talking about in that one so maybe that is why I don't understand how she is being unreasonable about what she feels.
Grandiose delusions is when a person thinks they are more important and powerful then they actually are. Okay, pik I do not know how that applies to her but again, you said she had previous statements/threads that proved this.
No biggie. Pressure is just pressure. Like if you put pressure on your arm with your hand. It's just pressure. Not good, not bad. Just pressure.
No biggie. Pressure is just pressure.Like if you put pressure on your arm with your hand.It's just pressure. Not good, not bad. Just pressure.
Do you know about indifference?
Alright I see exactly what you mean (I think). You think she had a bigger expectation of what she was SUPPOSED to feel and the 'pressure' WAS the normal feeling. Okay, if it is the 'normal' feeling (obviously going off of what you're saying, LOL) -- if she didn't like it then obviously she doesn't like sex. That's how I see it.
Indifference? Not caring about something one way or another. But if someone labels an experience bad or good, then it's not indifference to me. Pressure can be labeled indifferent I suppose but I can see why she wouldn't find that to be a great experience. I personally prefer for people not be pressing parts of my body either. (And not for nothing, if that really is what it is, what a freaking waste of time people carry on about. But that's another issue).
you guys are good,,,i thought i had the only woman that turned into the debate captain, and can remember every word spoken in the last 4 years-im impressed
Alright I see exactly what you mean (I think). You think she had a bigger expectation of what she was SUPPOSED to feel and the 'pressure' WAS the normal feeling. Okay, if it is the 'normal' feeling (obviously going off of what you're saying, LOL) -- if she didn't like it then obviously she doesn't like sex. That's how I see it.
Indifference? Not caring about something one way or another. But if someone labels an experience bad or good, then it's not indifference to me. Pressure can be labeled indifferent I suppose but I can see why she wouldn't find that to be a great experience. I personally prefer for people not be pressing parts of my body either. (And not for nothing, if that really is what it is, what a freaking waste of time people carry on about. But that's another issue).
LOL. OK, now we are getting somewhere. Of course I was not there to know what happened to her, but I have a feeling her experiences were mediocre and she was expecting better. Maybe she doesn't know what she likes because she hasn't had it.
Pressure can be normal.
I was going to liken it to chocolate cake. Lets say someone built you up to this fantastic chocolate cake you were going to have. I am talking the best chocolate cake EVER! It is going to taste so good you are going to lose your mind!
You are eating this chocolate cake and it is no better than the school cafeteria cake. What a let down. Thats all?
Well I don't like it.
Had you not been so built up over this cake it would have been ok, because you were just expecting some cake.
So since it was supposed to be so good and all it was was mediocre, then you don't like it.
I wouldn't either.
Pressure is nothing to write home about, but it can happen.
you guys are good,,,i thought i had the only woman that turned into the debate captain, and can remember every word spoken in the last 4 years-im impressed
It's so funny how everything turns into a 'debate,' 'an argument' etc. when people don't agree. I don't remember one time saying any of this to these folks but it keeps getting brought up. It's a thread where people are posting, no different then any other and surprisingly not all sharing the same thoughts on the same things.
And not for nothing there are no special powers required to remember what was typed on screen an hour ago with short term memory and a back button.
LOL. OK, now we are getting somewhere. Of course I was not there to know what happened to her, but I have a feeling her experiences were mediocre and she was expecting better. Maybe she doesn't know what she likes because she hasn't had it.
Pressure can be normal.
I was going to liken it to chocolate cake. Lets say someone built you up to this fantastic chocolate cake you were going to have. I am talking the best chocolate cake EVER! It is going to taste so good you are going to lose your mind!
You are eating this chocolate cake and it is no better than the school cafeteria cake. What a let down. Thats all?
Well I don't like it.
Had you not been so built up over this cake it would have been ok, because you were just expecting some cake.
So since it was supposed to be so good and all it was was mediocre, then you don't like it.
I wouldn't either.
Pressure is nothing to write home about, but it can happen.
Alright, chocolate cake it is. LOL.
I understand what you're saying Pik but if this girl has tried (don't know though) Betty Crocker, Pillsbury, Cheesecake Factory, Sara Lee's chocolate cakes and doesn't like any of them, safe bet she doesn't like chocolate cake.
Also, I don't know why it's a requirement to have to run through every brand of chocolate cake to form a decisive opinion on it, not you, but that has been suggested before by various people this is the only way to go. And also at point do you conclude, I know myself well enough to not have to try all these cakes to know I don't like the chocolate kind? I can look at a cake and tell if it's something I want to try or not. Someone pushing and saying 'oh just try them all eventually you'll like one,' is probably based on their own positive experiences with various brands of chocolate cake, but that's them. That's how I see it.....She have never said whether she plan on even continuing to pursuing this or not. IMO: I think she need to be somewhat up front about it, when they find out they're going to dump her anyways.
I understand what you're saying Pik but if this girl has tried (don't know though) Betty Crocker, Pillsbury, Cheesecake Factory, Sara Lee's chocolate cakes and doesn't like any of them, safe bet she doesn't like chocolate cake.
Also, I don't know why it's a requirement to have to run through every brand of chocolate cake to form a decisive opinion on it, not you, but that has been suggested before by various people this is the only way to go. And also at point do you conclude, I know myself well enough to not have to try all these cakes to know I don't like the chocolate kind? I can look at a cake and tell if it's something I want to try or not. Someone pushing and saying 'oh just try them all eventually you'll like one,' is probably based on their own positive experiences with various brands of chocolate cake, but that's them. That's how I see it.....She have never said whether she plan on even continuing to pursuing this or not. IMO: I think she need to be somewhat up front about it, when they find out they're going to dump her anyways.
Well, we can't try all the chocolate cake in the world, nor all the men. She has stated a form of sex that she does like, so she is not saying she hates all sex. This has been in other threads, not this one.
Like I've said many times, relationships are like give and take. Sometimes we take, sometimes we give.
Sometimes we please our mate and sometimes they please us. Hopefully everyone is pleased all the time, but really, that does not always happen.
I think she is having more of another problem according to the thread that was deleted yesterday. The thread was titled something like, When guys like to receive but don't like to give.
That is not word for word, but it is what she was saying. So, she asked about that, and people were saying no, you need to get rid of him, etc etc. I was recalling another thread close to it that I think was deleted, that possibly the guy she was talking about was not the first one this happened with.
Soooo.... she does like this 'type' of sex, but it looks like she isn't getting it. So, the OP is not against all sex. She just has a preference.
I have preferences as well, some things feel better than others, doesn't mean I don't dable in them all!
This is a question for men, could you be with a woman who didn't physically enjoy sex but did it anyway because she loved or cared about you as a person??
What about when you have direct clitoral stimulation? Many women (something like 60%) require that in order to orgasm. Just going "in and out" alone often doesn't do the trick.
Lilac110's posts in this thread about the physiology of this have been spot-on.
Edit:
To the person who anonymously repped this post with the comment, "Very direct stimulation there is a good way to get a knee to the sternum" (lol), this is something that varies widely from woman to woman. Some love direct stimulation and for others it's too intense. The female sexual response varies a lot from woman-to-woman. We men may need you to show us what does it for you. We can't read your mind! What worked for our last girlfriend may or may not work at all for you. And, if you lie and pretend you like it when you don't (up to and including faking orgasm), we'll never learn, and you'll never enjoy it.
yeah i can feel clitoral stimulation but i dont want to have to masterbate when I have sex. what is the point? it doesn't feel as good during penetration anyway. it feels better with a vibrator
Well, we can't try all the chocolate cake in the world, nor all the men. She has stated a form of sex that she does like, so she is not saying she hates all sex. This has been in other threads, not this one.
Like I've said many times, relationships are like give and take. Sometimes we take, sometimes we give.
Sometimes we please our mate and sometimes they please us. Hopefully everyone is pleased all the time, but really, that does not always happen.
I think she is having more of another problem according to the thread that was deleted yesterday. The thread was titled something like, When guys like to receive but don't like to give.
That is not word for word, but it is what she was saying. So, she asked about that, and people were saying no, you need to get rid of him, etc etc. I was recalling another thread close to it that I think was deleted, that possibly the guy she was talking about was not the first one this happened with.
Soooo.... she does like this 'type' of sex, but it looks like she isn't getting it. So, the OP is not against all sex. She just has a preference.
I have preferences as well, some things feel better than others, doesn't mean I don't dable in them all!
well if she is talking about one form of sex she doesn't like or the guy she's with is just an a hole (big surprise), no, that is not at all the same thing. But I was going off of this thread where she asked the title question. Very misleading. Like you said her preference is no more earth shattering then the next person who has theirs, if she didn't like oral sex that's one thing. BUT if she was talking about not liking intercourse which is what the title suggested to me or not being open to all of it like men want, then I stand by what I said. IF you do not desire to have intercourse with men regularly, they will ditch you first chance this comes to light. Hell, men have even said (IRL and on here) it was a 'dealbreaker' if a woman wasn't into oral sex (either way). There's no way they'd stick with a 'no intercourse woman.' Yea right. Likely they will cheat on her and have intercourse with someone else eventually even if they do give her a chance.
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