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Old 04-02-2013, 05:20 PM
 
Location: SF CA, USA
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Nonsense. Desperate women are desperate, whether they approach or not. Successful, desirable women certainly don't have to approach but if they do (and by approach, I don't mean they have to do all the work) it projects confidence, which makes them all the more desireable
I think most progressive guys would think so too...guys who have insecurity issues or are very conservative about men-women relationships and think that things have to work in a certain way are going to have trouble women reversing traditional roles on them.
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Old 04-02-2013, 05:22 PM
 
Location: Up in the air
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They probably mean they don't want to be approached by you. Yeah men are going to turn down Kate upton if she approaches them.

Kate Upton will never have to approach a man.
Women like me do because we're undesirable.

So yeah, I do agree...but attractive women don't have to do any approaching so it's kind of a moot point.
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Old 04-02-2013, 05:38 PM
 
Location: Seattle, WA
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Kate Upton will never have to approach a man.
Women like me do because we're undesirable.

So yeah, I do agree...but attractive women don't have to do any approaching so it's kind of a moot point.
They don't have to, that's correct.

However, some initiation - flirting, smiling, playful touching, etc.. and even more aggressive gestures at time can go a long way if she wants THAT guy. Attractive women get hit on by all sorts of drunk losers constantly and there's no guarantee that a successful, good-looking guy who is in demand and has his pick of the litter will notice her.
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Old 04-02-2013, 05:41 PM
 
Location: Up in the air
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They don't have to, that's correct.

However, some initiation - flirting, smiling, playful touching, etc.. and even more aggressive gestures at time can go a long way if she wants THAT guy. Attractive women get hit on by all sorts of drunk losers constantly and there's no guarantee that a successful, good-looking guy who is in demand and has his pick of the litter will notice her.
Yes, but that 'successful, good looking guy who is in demand' is still going to pick whatever woman he wants, regardless of what the women are doing. In fact, from what I've seen he may even purposely choose to go with the one who is ignoring him considering many guys like to 'chase'.
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Old 04-02-2013, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Katonah, NY
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Nonsense. Desperate women are desperate, whether they approach or not. Successful, desirable women certainly don't have to approach but if they do (and by approach, I don't mean they have to do all the work) it projects confidence, which makes them all the more desireable
You are proving my point. That's your opinion online. My opinion is that offline, many men see women that do the approaching as desperate. Online - all the men want the women to do the approaching all the time.
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Old 04-02-2013, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Seattle, WA
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Yes, but that 'successful, good looking guy who is in demand' is still going to pick whatever woman he wants, regardless of what the women are doing. In fact, from what I've seen he may even purposely choose to go with the one who is ignoring him considering many guys like to 'chase'.
I respectfully disagree. I mean I know what you're saying and guys like that do exist, I just don't think it's that common.

Women who know how to flirt really turn me on. I'm certainly not saying that I expect every woman to approach me and ask me out on a date but some initial flirtation that I described previously is such a great way to spark the flame. Guys are always on the look for signs of interest. Just my opinion.
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Old 04-02-2013, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Seattle, WA
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You are proving my point. That's your opinion online. My opinion is that offline, many men see women that do the approaching as desperate. Online - all the men want the women to do the approaching all the time.
No, it's my general opinion, on or offline.
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Old 04-02-2013, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Katonah, NY
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No, it's my general opinion, on or offline.
That wasn't really my point - but I don't always make my point clear. My point is that the people that post online always seem to want women to do the approaching, pay for dates, make the first move, etc. In real life - most of the men I've encountered have been the exact opposite of that. I'm not saying that you do one thing online and you do something else offline. I'm saying that the people online are not representative of the majority of men.
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Old 04-02-2013, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Up in the air
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I respectfully disagree. I mean I know what you're saying and guys like that do exist, I just don't think it's that common.

Women who know how to flirt really turn me on. I'm certainly not saying that I expect every woman to approach me and ask me out on a date but some initial flirtation that I described previously is such a great way to spark the flame. Guys are always on the look for signs of interest. Just my opinion.
I flirt...a lot. I love talking to people and making new connections. The problem I have with flirting is that the vast majority of men I've come across take that flirting as 'she totally wants to bang me tonight' and when I ask for a phone number or if they want to grab coffee they realize I'm interested in more than just casual sex and you can visibly see how disappointed they get. Maybe it's because I'm not seen as 'relationship material' and seen more as ONS material so I have a skewed view on approaching.
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Old 04-02-2013, 06:17 PM
 
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