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Old 03-10-2013, 08:44 PM
 
Location: SF CA, USA
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I can see why the term would be offensive to some. I think the overuse of it is offensive. But I also think that within the context of a person who pursues relationships based solely on advancing their own interests, the term, though a slang term, is not offensive.
The majority of the human race since we first evolved?
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Old 03-10-2013, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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The majority of the human race since we first evolved?
I disagree. I think a lot of people do pursue relationships for intrinsically good reasons. Sure, their own interests are a factor, but there is also an element of mutual benefit as well. Like understanding your own value and what you have to offer to make someone else's life better.
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Old 03-11-2013, 04:09 AM
 
Location: Louisville, KY
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I don’t think it makes her a gold digger if she chooses to meet the bigger pay check first, if I was her (I’m a man) I think what would be crossing my mind is what does he do? and if they are so alike then what is it that pushed him to such a higher pay rate. There could be many other things then the money that could spark her interest about how he became so successful other then how to get her hands on it. I think the only way to label someone a gold digger is to know if her whole intention from the very beginning was to date the biggest wallet.
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Old 03-12-2013, 07:11 AM
 
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Percent of women making 200K is like 0.001%. 250K is upper middle class?


You realize the average person in this country makes 37K right? 250K is easily top 1%. Hell 85K is bordering on upper class
There are women who make 200k+ easy. Strippers, high end escorts, top newscasters, athletes, small business owners, and top real estate agents. Also, women who get hefty alimony and child support payments such as Kelis Rogers (former wife of Nas the rapper) who gets 25,000 per month.
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Old 03-12-2013, 07:13 AM
 
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But let's say that she is making just $30,000? Do you think the formula is still valid? Assume all the other factors we've discussed remain constant.
Yes.
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Old 03-12-2013, 07:15 AM
 
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Out of curiosity...where do you live because $85k per year is not a LOT of money in most major cities?
I will say this, if you're SINGLE, and you have no kids, 85k is a lot of money.
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Old 03-12-2013, 07:33 AM
 
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There's a difference between 6 figures and $25,000-$30,000. I look around the $50,000 range. Just like I wouldn't take a job for that amount I doubt I'd date a man who made that amount. You can't even live on your own with that amount.
Not to pick on you, but I think the wise thing to do is to go by a case by case basis when you're looking for a partner.

For example, a man who makes 30k a year could be debt free, and his parents could have been generous enough to help him with a down payment on a home. On the other hand, a guy could be making 150k a year, but he could have 200k in student loans, and another 10k+ in credit card debt.

In other words, it not about how much money a person makes, but about their debt to income ratio.

Marrying Someone Who Has Student Loan Debts: When Do You Have to Pay?
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Old 03-12-2013, 07:45 AM
 
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I am VERY curious to see a picture of a real time Trophy wife. I grew up in Newport Beach, I see rich people all the time, their wives are ugly, average looking, drop dead gorgeous, just like everybody else's wives. No exceptions to the rules.

I honestly believe this whole women are gold diggers, men are all pigs only care about appearences is an outdated, delusional big huge myth!
You did! That was my favorite town (along with Crystal Cove). Use to eat at Hurricanes all the time for free.
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Old 03-12-2013, 07:51 AM
 
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i scoff at the idea of 'scraping by' with the basics.
The idea of what basics are in this country has become a total joke.
People have a way overinflated idea of how their lifestyles should be...and then they whine when they 'barely make it' by their standards.
All those numbers you quote are entirely based on perception.
If you can't 'make it' on 100k, you are a financial idiot and probably a spoiled brat.
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Old 03-12-2013, 10:51 AM
 
Location: moved
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Just meeting a person who makes $250K would be fascinating, from a human-studies viewpoint – never mind dating or relationships. So I would not denigrate the decision to meet the $250K guy first – provided that that one meeting wouldn’t exclude plans to consider the $85K guy later. Both deserve a chance.

That said, would it make sense for a genuinely wealthy person to advertise his/her income online? I’d suspect that mention of a $250K income is a lie. One of the multitude of problems in online dating is that there’s no discrete way for wealthy people to vouch for their wealth without ostentatious pretense or risking undesired exposure.

3rd point: wealth (assets) matters more than income. Maybe the $85K/year guy has been saving his nickels since his paper-route in 7th grade, and is now worth $1M of investible assets. Meanwhile, the $250K/year guy has been living large, and has negative net worth.

As for the observation of wealthy guys with unattractive wives, well, the possibilities abound. Maybe the guy wasn’t wealthy when they got married, but made his money over the decades. Maybe his wife was gorgeous when they married, but time was unkind. Maybe he isn’t wealthy at all, but merely pretends through dress and accouterments. Or maybe, just maybe, physical appearance is of secondary importance to him.

About the meaning of “middle class” and income level. The whole essence of “middle class” is that basics and a few luxuries are covered, but genuine luxuries are unaffordable. The middle class spends most of their income on daily needs, perhaps saves a little for retirement, and relies on public amenities such as public school, public swimming pools, public beaches and the like. Replacement of public-with-private bespeaks upper middle class and above. I realize that an apartment in Manhattan is expensive and raising a family even on $250K in Manhattan isn’t necessarily trivial. But living in Manhattan is itself a luxury,and raising a family in Manhattan is an extreme luxury. We tend to stretch upward the definition of “middle class”, because it’s considered to be gauche to regard oneself as wealthy. After all, we all wish to be men of the people, and not snobs. And regardless of one’s wealth, there are many who are vastly wealthier.
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