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Old 06-18-2013, 09:19 PM
 
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[quote=Oleg Bach;30085344]....There is no such thing as a bi-sexual. ...quote]


Agreed 1000%!!!!! No such thing. It is a term people use to fool themselves (and others) into thinking that what they are doing/feeling is natural, when we all know it is anything but. bi-sexual people are GAY people, that's it and that's why they end up with gays.

 
Old 06-18-2013, 09:20 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Plus, you might benefit from talking to some gay (or heterosexual) people with HIV if you thinking eating across the table from them or kissing their cheek will give you HIV.
LOL

Tell me where did I say "I believe eating across the table from them or kissing their cheek will give you HIV?" Obviously, you believe that, don't you?

I thought you only wrote A-grade college essay, this is the best you can come up with? Putting Words in Other People's Mouths?
 
Old 06-18-2013, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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Maybe not. I suppose it depends on the context of the relationship at whatever stage the two are in. If she's bi or prostituted 10 years of her life she'll probably not say a word to him until after they're married, or if before then, not until some time into they're dating.

His sexual past is his/her business anyways. Even if he or she had an incurable STD they knew about they need not feel obligated to reveal that on the first, second, or third date.

But regardless, when he wants to tell someone is up to him and not up to me.

I don't think a woman that was a porn star is "hiding" that if she meets me and does not tell me that. Why should she? Not my business. When and if she wants to tell me she can. Just like my wife's, girlfriend's, or my child's diary is not my business to browse through uninvited to read it.

I don't think a guy that's bisexual need feel obligated to tell anyone his sexual orientation that's not his SO.
I don't know about the US, but in Canada, if you fail to inform your partner of an incurable STI that you are aware of, it's a criminal matter. You can be prosecuted for murder. Criminal transmission of HIV - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Over here, you can't legally give consent to sex if you are not aware that your partner has a sexually transmitted disease.
 
Old 06-18-2013, 09:27 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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No woman--or man--is need feel obligated to tell me they have HIV even if I invite them on a date. They should reveal that to me before we have sex.
I can agree with that.
 
Old 06-18-2013, 09:30 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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Here we go again...You are comparing 2 very different things. Being blonde or brunette is natural, just like being born with freckles is natural, being short or tall is natural. However, when a guy says he is attracted to guys also, that is very UNnatural. The same goes for girls who say they are attracted to girls. It is very bizarre and hard to understand. It's as bizarre as him saying he is also attracted to horses, pigs or cows. Is that natural? Absolutely not!!!

OP, most intelligent/conservative girls know when there is something not right with the guy they are dating so most of the time, they already probably know about your status but keep quiet maybe waiting to hear it from you. There are also girls who really hate being alone or stay home on Friday nights, so they will date anything to say "they are dating", but that does not mean they don't know! Like Nila just said, she knew the guys she dated were like you but went with them anyway.
Oh dear, if a woman is okay with a guy being bisexual she's desperate now? Homosexuality is natural and normal and nothing like bestiality. And I can't believe I'm even having to explain this...
 
Old 06-18-2013, 09:31 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Homosexuality is natural and normal
I agree with this.
 
Old 06-18-2013, 09:49 PM
 
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...Oh dear, if a woman is okay with a guy being bisexual she's desperate now?..
Yes! Not only desperate but without any doubt, one who despises herself.


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....Homosexuality is natural and normal ...
To you and others like you, yes. To me and those in my family/social circle, it is very bizarre and unatural. It all comes down to values. The reason you may think it is natural/normal could be because the media, through shows or movies, portrays this bizarre behavior as "normal" or "natural". In other words, because it is not condemned, you ended up growing up thinking it is "natural", when clearly, it is NOT. Of course you don't have to agree with me, we have to agree to disagree.
 
Old 06-18-2013, 09:49 PM
 
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It used to be I was open about myself dating women once we broke the ice and got more comfortable in conversation. Just about all of these women claimed to be really open minded and "allied" or whatever you wanted to call it. As soon as I mentioned I was bisexual all the sudden the wall came up, and even though I could read their prior body language they didn't want to pursue the relationship any further unless you meant platonic friends. I noticed this pattern from "open minded" young women... so now whenever I date women I just don't mention it anymore. Has anyone else seen this? How do you handle being yourself? I saw this poll that said about 20% of people in this forum are bisexual or think they are. What's the deal anyway, if you're allied you shouldn't have a problem with this.
You can't start a relationship based off of lies. Someone once told me, how you start a relationship is how you end it.

If you start it with lies, hiding details about your life - especially ones that can physically cause damage - your relationship will end in utter chaos. You are selectively disclosing information in order to get what you want and putting the other person at a disadvantage. You should be asking them about whether or not they have a problem with it. If they do, which evidently they do, cut your loss, continue to be honest in your pursuit and you might strike out lucky.
 
Old 06-18-2013, 09:54 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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And your response is conditioned by society as the other poster stated. Think about it, all of us are affected by what society says we should think or believe or how we should react.

You're conditioned to think the guy sleeping with the guy is not "100% manly" to a females standard and ideal of masculinity. Kind of like men deciding on what a woman should be if she's a "real women." Although, few people use the phrase "real woman."

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It all comes down to values. The reason you may think it is natural/normal could be because the media, through shows or movies, portrays this bizarre behavior as "normal" or "natural". In other words, because it is not condemned, you ended up growing up thinking it is "natural", when clearly, it is NOT.
LOL You two obviously live in two completely different societies. Tell me, I am confused, what exactly society is telling us now?

homosexuality is normal or abnormal? I am confused.
 
Old 06-18-2013, 09:57 PM
 
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[quote=pixie stix;30086559].....You can't start a relationship based off of lies. ....quote]


He is not lying to them, he is only lying to himself. Like I said previously, if he is dating intelligent women, most instinctively know there is something odd about him but they may keep quiet for a while to observe him. He cannot lie to intelligent women, they are very perceptive. Others, perhaps due to family pressures to have a "wedding by a certain age, have even married gay men but that is not because they did not know the guy was gay!!
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