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Old 07-07-2013, 10:17 PM
 
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I say this because I see a lot of people out there recommending various PUA books to read for guys who struggle to get girls. To me, these books are very misleading and do more harm than good

The reason I say this is because these books make it seem like getting a girlfriend is the equivalent of climbing mount everest. They make it seem like the only guys getting girls are those with impeccable charisma/confidence, social skills, jobs, looks, style, etc... In reality, it's all complete nonsense. I go out all the time and I see plenty of average looking, average personality, average income, average style guys with lovely girlfriends. I talk to these men and there is nothing special about them - they don't have any great charisma or wit. They're just normal nice people who are not afraid to be themselves


To me, the great irony is these books preach "don't put the ***** on the pedestal"...but that's exactly when they do when they make you feel like you need to read a 300 page book to get a girl (when men have been dating for thousands of years without needing any books). We need to have some books that just preach being comfortable with oneself, decreasing the perceived challenge of dating for men and other things that will help struggling guys out (like myself)

 
Old 07-07-2013, 10:20 PM
 
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What was your other name on CD

Haven't you started several threads about PUA ?
 
Old 07-07-2013, 10:21 PM
 
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What I don't like about it is it takes all the authenticity and natural flow out of dating. It eliminates the positive, natural experience of being yourself with other people. A real relationship isn't based on a book of rules. At some point you have to learn to just be yourself.
 
Old 07-07-2013, 10:26 PM
 
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What I don't like about it is it takes all the authenticity and natural flow out of dating. It eliminates the positive, natural experience of being yourself with other people. A real relationship isn't based on a book of rules. At some point you have to learn to just be yourself.


I totally agree
 
Old 07-07-2013, 10:28 PM
 
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Originally Posted by ImmortalRites View Post
I say this because I see a lot of people out there recommending various PUA books to read for guys who struggle to get girls. To me, these books are very misleading and do more harm than good

The reason I say this is because these books make it seem like getting a girlfriend is the equivalent of climbing mount everest. They make it seem like the only guys getting girls are those with impeccable charisma/confidence, social skills, jobs, looks, style, etc... In reality, it's all complete nonsense. I go out all the time and I see plenty of average looking, average personality, average income, average style guys with lovely girlfriends. I talk to these men and there is nothing special about them - they don't have any great charisma or wit. They're just normal nice people who are not afraid to be themselves


To me, the great irony is these books preach "don't put the ***** on the pedestal"...but that's exactly when they do when they make you feel like you need to read a 300 page book to get a girl (when men have been dating for thousands of years without needing any books). We need to have some books that just preach being comfortable with oneself, decreasing the perceived challenge of dating for men and other things that will help struggling guys out (like myself)
The PUA world is an industry. Just like payday loans, it's an easy way for businessmen to take advantage of desperate people.
 
Old 07-07-2013, 10:30 PM
 
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The PUA world is an industry. Just like payday loans, it's an easy way for businessmen to take advantage of desperate people.

Yep...it is ironic how an industry that's all about helping guys get girls makes that seem like an overwhelmingly difficult challenge
 
Old 07-07-2013, 10:33 PM
 
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Yep...it is ironic how an industry that's all about helping guys get girls makes that seem like an overwhelmingly difficult challenge

Follow the money.

A book can be 30 dollars, a work shop can be thousands. Many men are desperate out there, they will pay for that ****.
 
Old 07-07-2013, 10:52 PM
 
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I say this because I see a lot of people out there recommending various PUA books to read for guys who struggle to get girls. To me, these books are very misleading and do more harm than good

The reason I say this is because these books make it seem like getting a girlfriend is the equivalent of climbing mount everest. They make it seem like the only guys getting girls are those with impeccable charisma/confidence, social skills, jobs, looks, style, etc... In reality, it's all complete nonsense. I go out all the time and I see plenty of average looking, average personality, average income, average style guys with lovely girlfriends. I talk to these men and there is nothing special about them - they don't have any great charisma or wit. They're just normal nice people who are not afraid to be themselves


To me, the great irony is these books preach "don't put the ***** on the pedestal"...but that's exactly when they do when they make you feel like you need to read a 300 page book to get a girl (when men have been dating for thousands of years without needing any books). We need to have some books that just preach being comfortable with oneself, decreasing the perceived challenge of dating for men and other things that will help struggling guys out (like myself)
Sing it, brother!
 
Old 07-07-2013, 10:53 PM
 
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Follow the money.

A book can be 30 dollars, a work shop can be thousands. Many men are desperate out there, they will pay for that ****.
..and if the book and workshop make you feel like it's difficult and complicated, then you might buy another book and another workshop...
 
Old 07-07-2013, 10:54 PM
 
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..and if the book and workshop make you feel like it's difficult and complicated, then you might buy another book and another workshop...
Exactly.
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