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Old 08-01-2013, 01:26 PM
 
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This is true, but it must be remembered that women are sensitive to signals from other women. Rarely are you in a totally isolated setting when sending such signals, and there's an awareness other women can view it also. In other words, any rejection or humiliation a man risks in a direct approach, a woman also risks in simply sending signals, if not from the romantic interest himself, from her female peers.
So women can detect other women's signals. So what? I'm not seeing what the risk is there.

And even if what you're saying is true, if men can't detect women's signals, then what's the point in sending them in the first place? If anything it would be more adaptive to send a very obvious signal very quickly rather than sending too subtle a signal and being detected by other women without men's awareness.

Am I the only one that thinks this sounds like espionage? Just me, then, is it....
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Old 08-01-2013, 01:26 PM
 
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This is true, but it must be remembered that women are sensitive to signals from other women. Rarely are you in a totally isolated setting when sending such signals, and there's an awareness other women can view it also. In other words, any rejection or humiliation a man risks in a direct approach, a woman also risks in simply sending signals, if not from the romantic interest himself, from her female peers.
i'm not sure if i understand this
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Old 08-01-2013, 01:30 PM
 
Location: socal baby
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she's friendly if i'm not interested in her

she's possible interested if i find her attractive, she appears to be enjoying my company (or gives me the look like she wants to meet/talk with me), and she's not married or has a bf.

she's definitely interested if we make plans to connect again and talk about doing stuff together.

how did i learn the difference? through being repeatedly rejected for not reading her cues better, practice makes perfect.
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Old 08-01-2013, 01:40 PM
 
Location: CA
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So women can detect other women's signals. So what? I'm not seeing what the risk is there.

And even if what you're saying is true, if men can't detect women's signals, then what's the point in sending them in the first place? If anything it would be more adaptive to send a very obvious signal very quickly rather than sending too subtle a signal and being detected by other women without men's awareness.

Am I the only one that thinks this sounds like espionage? Just me, then, is it....
Women speak disparagingly of other women when they note them sending "obvious" signals of romantic interest to men. So there's a risk in humiliation with peers. Your female peers may say "oh she's desperate & pathetic, chasing after him - look he's not even interested!" and stuff like that.

Women likely don't realize their signals are too subtle for men. I think there's an aiming to send something clear enough for the guy to get without appearing desperate or silly.

The problem with a very obvious, quick signal is you don't know if the guy is interested either, and now you have no slow building dynamic for a gauge. You risk more direct rejection/humiliation, and unless it's someone you will likely never see again, then it's something you have to face every time you see the person. I think women seek to appear open & approachable more than interested because of this.

I realize men face this dilemma also, but I think women are judged more harshly for unrequited romantic interested. There are stronger negative connotations of her being desperate or a flirt or whatever.
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Old 08-01-2013, 01:43 PM
 
Location: SF CA, USA
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Never was and probably never will be able to. One woman's "Go and die in a fire and don't bother me" glower is another's "come hither you sexy thing" look.
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Old 08-01-2013, 01:48 PM
 
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Kiss her to find out.

If you are a bad kisser, expect more women to be friendly but not interested.
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Old 08-01-2013, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Canada
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I notice so many men have trouble with this -- even men in their 60's!

If a woman is smiling, open, and friendly, they can't tell whether she is also interested in them romantically or not. (Usually they think she is, and then feel hurt when they turn out to be wrong.)

So, guys who have learned this skill, how did you do it? Help out your brothers .
I think they need to work more on not feeling hurt or worrying about being turned down, versus whether or not a smile or look is an invitation.
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Old 08-01-2013, 01:57 PM
 
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Never was and probably never will be able to. One woman's "Go and die in a fire and don't bother me" glower is another's "come hither you sexy thing" look.
So sad, but definitely true!
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Old 08-01-2013, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Howard County, MD
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I'm still trying to learn.
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Old 08-01-2013, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Pa
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I'm still trying to learn.
I agree sometimes its hard to decipher.
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