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Old 08-25-2013, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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For the last time, I'm not a fake person. I'm not a guy. I'm not a person trying to waste other people's time.
Do you seriously think I would have spent hours trying to elaborate what's going on inside my head, just for the sake of a joke? I would have been bored by page 2.

Stop trying to look for inconsistencies in my speech.


By the way, I'm not crazy. I take great offense in you people calling me crazy when you don't even know me, and you're basing your judgment on superficial arguments. Calling people "crazy" is easy and low. That's just plain immature.

I doubt guys would see through me right when they first meet me. People can easily hide their inner self. That's why I came here to discuss how I'm really feeling deep inside and get some objective perspectives. Because it seems, according to some of your posts, that "I have it all on paper" when I clearly don't feel that way.
sorry brudda, if I offended you by calling you crazy.

I started off on the wrong foot, my apologies.

Lets start again:

What help/advise are you seeking from the good people of CD-R that a professional therapist/shrink couldn't help you on??

And btw, what were their assessment?
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Old 08-25-2013, 10:03 AM
 
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Hello everyone,

I'm 23 and as far as I can remember, I've always been rejected by guys. They ask me out and then they always end up disappearing/stringing me along before the first date. Why do they bother asking me out then? I don't even make the first move, and I always end up being rejected.
Guys ask you out because you are cute and seem nice, but a lack of self-esteem will wear quickly.

To be clear, I'm not blaming you, but you do need to work things out emotionally. Some of that will come with age. Also, don't worry about your friends and that they all seem to be paired up. Most of my friends are, some are happy, some are not.

And another thing:

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I don't have high standards by any means because I usually am attracted to all types of guys regardless of their appearance/job. These things don't matter to me.
Have higher standards. Someone's appearance/job should matter to you. Having standards is good. It's ok to like what you like and it also allows you to focus on guys you may be more interested in dating. Not really having standards just reeks of desperation anyway.

Find a good group of single friends to go out with. I know easier said than done, but it's always a good start, to work as a team.
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Old 08-25-2013, 10:04 AM
 
Location: State of Transition
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sorry brudda, if I offended you by calling you crazy.

I started off on the wrong foot, my apologies.

Lets start again:

What help/advise are you seeking from the good people of CD-R that a professional therapist/shrink couldn't help you on??

And btw, what were their assessment?
Didn't you read her posts about her sessions? The therapists were clueless and incompetent. Instead of taking recommendations from others, she needs to do her own internet research on therapists/shrinks in her area, and try a few who advertise that they specialize in issues relevant to her.
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Old 08-25-2013, 10:29 AM
 
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Yes, my therapists were absolutely clueless. I don't know if the fact that they were males is a factor to those therapy failures but I think it somehow had an impact. Two of those therapists just commented on my clothes and then switched to how "wealthy" I supposedly look. Then, they blamed my situation on the fact that I supposedly am "snobbish" and "too fashionable".

I told them pretty horrific things about my childhood, and one of them did not believe me because according to him, wealthy people do not do such things to their children. He said I was over-privileged and I am just wasting his time. What a joke. I was not over-privileged.

Those therapy sessions made me feel even more self-conscious. One of them even accused me of flirting with him (I was 18 at the time). I stopped the sessions right there.


It does not help that I do not have a lot of friends due to the fact that I lived in two different countries during my undergrad degree. I had a hard time building solid friendships. The only "real" friends I have are my two high school friends.


Eye contact? I don't have a problem holding eye contact with people. I read books about social skills, but I find it quite hard to put those guidelines in practice.
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Old 08-25-2013, 10:42 AM
 
Location: State of Transition
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Yes, my therapists were absolutely clueless. I don't know if the fact that they were males is a factor to those therapy failures but I think it somehow had an impact. Two of those therapists just commented on my clothes and then switched to how "wealthy" I supposedly look. Then, they blamed my situation on the fact that I supposedly am "snobbish" and "too fashionable".

I told them pretty horrific things about my childhood, and one of them did not believe me because according to him, wealthy people do not do such things to their children. He said I was over-privileged and I am just wasting his time. What a joke. I was not over-privileged.

Those therapy sessions made me feel even more self-conscious. One of them even accused me of flirting with him (I was 18 at the time). I stopped the sessions right there.
O. M. G. !! You poor child! These guys were supreme idiots! Look for therapists (try women this time) who specialize in childhood abuse and trauma. The trauma specialists tend to be several cuts above the run-of-the-mill practitioners, and they're trained to get right down to business. This is where your real work lies in the next couple of years. Until you get this stuff healed, you'd have trouble in relationships, anyway. Good luck, OP.
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Old 08-25-2013, 10:51 AM
 
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I should probably become a nun.
You'd be a hot nun.

On a more serious note. You really need to journey outside the confines of your regular, everyday life. Go somewhere, do something out of the ordinary. Part of the reason your therapy may have been unsuccessful is that you seem averse to change. And that may be a characteristic instilled in you from a very young age.
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Old 08-25-2013, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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You or others may disagree but my suggestions:

1) don't do online dating, period.
2) let guys approach you first. The ones who are interested enough (key word: enough) will.
3) when you meet a guy, take it easy and don't get ahead of yourself. Keep dating others until you are committed.

Good luck.
I think this is good advice. A 23 year old woman should not have issues being approached by men. There is simply no need for online dating at this point. No need to aggressively pursue guys either.

I would also add attend more family functions, community events, church etc. You're more likely to find someone of similar views and values.
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Old 08-25-2013, 11:01 AM
 
Location: In nature
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Hello everyone,

I'm 23 and as far as I can remember, I've always been rejected by guys. They ask me out and then they always end up disappearing/stringing me along before the first date. Why do they bother asking me out then? I don't even make the first move, and I always end up being rejected.

Therefore, my track record has really affected my self-esteem. I was bullied in school so this situation isn't helping. I feel as though I'm not good enough/pretty enough (pics of my profile). I want to be someone's priority but I always end up being someone's option. Guys never seem to be genuinely interested in me.


I'm doing a dual law agree so I'm not totally dumb. I'm always as sweet as I can be because I hate hurting people/making them feel inadequate. I don't have high standards by any means because I usually am attracted to all types of guys regardless of their appearance/job. These things don't matter to me.

Yes, I'm not a social butterfly. I'm more of a mellow/sweet type of girl, but I'm quite talkative and bubbly.

I'm not desperate but I hate to show my feelings, so I always try to take things lightly.


I feel so lonely. All of my friends are paired up, and I'm here all alone.

What am I doing wrong? I need some help.


Thank you.
You and a stalking butler would be a good match. You two should hook up. You look like his type too.
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Old 08-25-2013, 11:02 AM
 
Location: State of Transition
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You and a stalking butler would be a good match. You two should hook up. You look like his type too.
Yeah, great. One person with a ton of baggage meets another with a ton of baggage. Yeah, that'll work.
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Old 08-25-2013, 11:15 AM
 
Location: In nature
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Yeah, great. One person with a ton of baggage meets another with a ton of baggage. Yeah, that'll work.
Maybe you are on to something. Keep people with baggage with another instead of piling their sh*t onto someone who doesn't have any.
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