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Do you think there is anything inherently immoral about men trying to have sex with as many women as possible and bragging about it to their friends, seeing it as a contest?
I asked my boyfriend if he thinks there's something immoral about that, and he said no, as long as the women are consenting to the sex. I feel he is a real slimeball for not seeing anying bad about that picture.
For me, it's bad because it makes women into nothing but objects in their mind, it means they don't care anything about who they are as a person and just want to use them to add to their 'nailed her' collection for bragging rights. The fact my boyfriend doesn't see anything negative about this as I do, would you say he's a slimeball? Should I leave him?
There's nothing wrong with some people viewing sex as something special and ohters viewing it as casual fun. As for bragging and contests I don't really like that, I think it's kind of degrading and treating hte other person as a conquest. That said simply sleeping with a lot of people I don't see anything wrong with that as long as the person is upfront with people and everything is consensual.
You can sleep around and be a "player" for lack of a better word without being a dick and a jerk. News flash, women like sex too and some women are bigger players than guys. Just because a guy sleeps with girl doesn't mean she doesn't repsect herself or he's taking advantage of her.
I guess basically my answer is nothing wrong with sleeping around though personally I dont like the whole bragging about it part. Someone can sleep around and still treat people with respect
How is this discussion still going on?(and by that I don't mean this thread, i mean the controversy as such)
She gets to use his body, he gets to use hers.
He gets to brag about it after, she gets to brag about if after.
She can chose her religion, he can chose his religion
His religion can be against, her religion can be against
she can chose to ignore that, he can chose to ignore that
In what way exactly is either of them doing anything immoral at all?
Last edited by SwedishViking; 09-10-2013 at 01:49 PM..
For me it is hard to have casual sex without there being this feelingof I am about to do something wrong? issue is not talking to woman but just trying to find a FWB or hook up without the little voice in my head saying sex should be with a girl your in love with do not have to be married or any thing just in a bf/gf relationship and love one an other.
it suck i wish i could have sex with any girl that wanted it . BTW i am not religious so it not that.
I come from a similar base and understand exactly what your saying but it is mostly societal conditioning which says you have to feel guilty about non-marital sex. Some of this is practical and some religous driven, even if you are not a religous person thats where it comes from. As two consenting responsable adults there should be no guilt associated with sex whatsoever. I was brought up in a somewhat religous environment so I see where some of this guilt comes from. The hypocracy of most all religous institutions is so great it almost incourages people to disregard the guilt applied to sex amongst many other things that organized religian does wrong.
Back to the topic:
Personally, I would be fine with having sex with as many women as possible if it was out of this world mind blowing sex every time. Fortunately or unfortunately I have only known a couple of women who were able to rock my world like that. It could definately not get to that level in a ONS or short term relationship so "as many girls a possible" to me is out.
How is this discussion still going on?(and by that I don't mean this thread, i mean the controversy as such)
She gets to use his body, he gets to use hers.
He gets to brag about it after, she gets to brag about if after.
She can chose her religion, he can chose his religion
His religion can be against, her religion can be against
she can chose to ignore that, he can chose to ignore that
In what way exactly is either of them doing anything immoral at all?
Generally speaking I agree with you.
The problem is if one person is "using" and the other isn't, or one person is bragging and the other thought it was a private thing, etc. It may not be immoral, per se, but it can be pretty problematic when two people aren't on the same page, and aren't communicating that to each other. This can happen pretty often with young people, particularly given how the genders are socialized to view sexuality differently.
At a certain point, if one person knows they're not on the same page, but continues to let the other person believe they are, it's dishonest, and the dishonesty can be called immoral.
How is this discussion still going on?(and by that I don't mean this thread, i mean the controversy as such)
She gets to use his body, he gets to use hers. He gets to brag about it after, she gets to brag about if after. She can chose her religion, he can chose his religion His religion can be against, her religion can be against she can chose to ignore that, he can chose to ignore that
In what way exactly is either of them doing anything immoral at all?
Referring to bolded portions above: not that physical intimacy in and of itself is unconditionally and always morally wrong, but where is the sense of actual love between both partners, though?
For example, it would appear to me on first glance after initially reading the quoted statements above, that none of those things have anything to do with real and genuine love and affection, in any way?
Personally, if it were me, I would have absolutely zero interest at all in being hypothetically intimate (with any woman), if I didn't at the very least feel some sort of affectionate, loving, and caring feelings of attachment, to her?
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Do you think there is anything inherently immoral about men trying to have sex with as many women as possible and bragging about it to their friends, seeing it as a contest?
I asked my boyfriend if he thinks there's something immoral about that, and he said no, as long as the women are consenting to the sex. I feel he is a real slimeball for not seeing anying bad about that picture.
For me, it's bad because it makes women into nothing but objects in their mind, it means they don't care anything about who they are as a person and just want to use them to add to their 'nailed her' collection for bragging rights. The fact my boyfriend doesn't see anything negative about this as I do, would you say he's a slimeball? Should I leave him?
Men are not women. They have a biological and psychological need to screw as many women as they can. That's just how it is, get over it. Your BF is not a slimeball, he's a man.
Men are not women. They have a biological and psychological need to screw as many women as they can. That's just how it is, get over it. Your BF is not a slimeball, he's a man.
Not all men are like this...as a man, I personally only want *one* woman, "The One". Only and just her. No one else, and not interested in being intimate with other women.
Do you think there is anything inherently immoral about men trying to have sex with as many women as possible and bragging about it to their friends, seeing it as a contest?
I asked my boyfriend if he thinks there's something immoral about that, and he said no, as long as the women are consenting to the sex. I feel he is a real slimeball for not seeing anying bad about that picture.
For me, it's bad because it makes women into nothing but objects in their mind, it means they don't care anything about who they are as a person and just want to use them to add to their 'nailed her' collection for bragging rights. The fact my boyfriend doesn't see anything negative about this as I do, would you say he's a slimeball? Should I leave him?
It is one of those things that isn't immoral in theory, but almost always is in practice.
The number of men who are interested in having lots of casual sex is huge; the number of women interested in having lots of casual sex is considerably smaller. So how do men who manage to have lots of casual sex with lots of different women usually pull it off? By lying. That is the immoral part.
Let me let you in on a little secret: most men would love to have sex with as many women as they could, if it were actually possible. You're boyfriend is not a slimeball. He is perfectly normal.
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BTW i am not religious so it not that.
