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You mean he is virgin, too? Statistically, two virgins together means an even worse sex life than if one person starts out a virgin, and a high rate of misery and divorce.
But, you know, that is not in the imaginary world. It's in the real one.
True, according to modern statistics, that is -- historically though, that was not necessarily always the case...
Because this guy isn't really in love with the woman as much as he's in love with his fantasy of purity and innocence that she represents. When she "lowers" herself to give in to her baser urges, his fantasy is shattered. She's no longer pure and innocent, and what's worse, she may actually love sex.
If the man and the woman sharing physical intimacy for the first time together are both innocent, pure, etc. (as described above), there is really no rational reason that I can think of as to why the man would think any less about a woman that he loves though, purely because of that factor by itself. If as some have mentioned in the thread, if a woman can become incredibly attached to a man after her first time, then why can't a man, as well?
Last edited by Phoenix2017; 09-28-2013 at 04:35 PM..
Reason: Corrected typo
Well, in this imaginary universe, where people bond more strongly with their first lover than with the one who comes after (even though they broke up with the first lover for a good reason and are happier with the current partner...), then no.
He would not bond to her very deeply because she is not his first.
Assumptions, assumptions lol...all men who are going to become intimately-active are going to technically need their own "first", as well...
If the man and the woman sharing physical intimacy for the first time together are both innocent, pure, etc
the problem is that no one's that innocent and pure. even thinking it's possible requires ignoring a huge portion of how people are (both good and bad). it's a fiction for children's stories and bad romcoms so the guy who looks for it is doomed to be disappointed
you don't need to be innocent and pure to have the bonding and attachment that you're speaking of
OP needs to get his ____ wet. Seriously, who do you think you're fooling with these weird "hypotheticals"? Enough with the sensitivity/awkwardness/social anxiety you have being around women. Guess what? Women are sexual beings. You aren't going to make a woman scream with butterfly kisses and candles.
Personally, I want to be married or at least officially engaged to a woman, before I will be actively involved in full intimacy, IRL. I understand that women have intimate desires as well...but still, you can't get a woman's full heart and devotion from a ONS or a FWB type of relationship, either. And that's what I really want...the whole heart and affection, of a woman, and specifically *before* any intimacy were to occur with her...
Just wanted to comment on the statement that "statistically" two virgins together have higher rates of divorce and sadness. That's not actually true. I'm assuming that someone actually has conducted such a survey, which I'm not aware of. (Meaning, it sounds like a fictitious "fact" that people like to cite.) The number of spouses where both are virgins has to be quite low. Therefore, if even one couple gets divorced, suddenly you're looking at like a 33% divorce rate. So it's a meaningless statistic.
Assumptions, assumptions lol...all men who are going to become intimately-active are going to technically need their own "first", as well...
I did ask you, but you edited that part out.
Is deliberate deception worse than something that was not, in provable fact, assumed?
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Originally Posted by OdysseusNY
the problem is that no one's that innocent and pure. even thinking it's possible requires ignoring a huge portion of how people are (both good and bad). it's a fiction for children's stories and bad romcoms so the guy who looks for it is doomed to be disappointed
you don't need to be innocent and pure to have the bonding and attachment that you're speaking of
Personally, I want to be married or at least officially engaged to a woman, before I will be actively involved in full intimacy, IRL. I understand that women have intimate desires as well...but still, you can't get a woman's full heart and devotion from a ONS or a FWB type of relationship, either. And that's what I really want...the whole heart and affection, of a woman, and specifically *before* any intimacy were to occur with her...
So, you believe (as do I) that a person's full heart and devotion can be given before any sex -- then, what difference is there if she is a virgin?
The number of spouses where both are virgins has to be quite low. Therefore, if even one couple gets divorced, suddenly you're looking at like a 33% divorce rate. So it's a meaningless statistic.
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Some days, this forum is worthwhile for the amusement value of the logic errors alone.
@OP: You are supposed to have all your romantic feelings directed towards a 'madonna', in the world of this particular mental issue. And your sexual feelings only for a 'wh*re'.
I can personally feel both romantic attachment, as well as physical desire, towards a madonna type of female. Romantic attachment just happens to be s much more important and the primary emotion for me overall, rather than physical desire. And additionally, for full and complete fairness and balance, I feel exactly the same way about the non-madonna women that I am romantically attracted to -- the emotional, romantic attachments component always wins, every time. Do I have physical desire, for all women that I am romantically-attracted to? Yes, of course; it is just not as much of an important or critical element to me, is all...
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