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Old 10-12-2013, 03:46 PM
 
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Nope. Had no idea this person existed. I don't even know where he writes his columns.
They're online and syndicated in newspapers. I think he lives in Seattle. Google, and read some of his columns. Pretty good stuff, and often funny.
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Old 10-12-2013, 05:36 PM
 
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Monogamy will always have it's place.

Many will just never be up to the challenge of living it.
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Old 10-12-2013, 07:37 PM
 
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Most people in our culture who try poly end up deciding they like monogamy better. Of course, in some other cultures poly is the default.

Same thing with being gay -- a lot of people in our culture 'experiment', maybe most do, but not so many end up deciding it's their preference. And, in some other cultures that is different.

I think that most humans are pretty flexible, sexually, and are strongly influenced by what is accepted in their culture for sexual expression. Going against the grain is a big hassle; you have to be really motivated.

Or an aspie . I know lots of poly aspies. They don't care about the broader culture so much.
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Old 10-12-2013, 10:00 PM
 
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Most people in our culture who try poly end up deciding they like monogamy better. Of course, in some other cultures poly is the default.
What cultures are those?

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Same thing with being gay -- a lot of people in our culture 'experiment', maybe most do, but not so many end up deciding it's their preference. And, in some other cultures that is different.
Would you say most people experiment? I definitely disagree.

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I think that most humans are pretty flexible, sexually, and are strongly influenced by what is accepted in their culture for sexual expression. Going against the grain is a big hassle; you have to be really motivated.

Or an aspie . I know lots of poly aspies. They don't care about the broader culture so much.
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How do you define "sexually flexible?"
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Old 10-12-2013, 10:11 PM
 
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What cultures are those?
The book Sex at Dawn has quite a few examples from anthropology. From my own schooling, I remember the Miao people in China, and also Tibetan traditional culture. Oh, and various 'Eskimo' tribes. But there are others in the amazon, africa, and eastern europe, IIRC.

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Would you say most people experiment? I definitely disagree.
Well, everyone I know. Maybe I know weirdos.

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How do you define "sexually flexible?"
As in the above post.
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Old 10-12-2013, 11:03 PM
 
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Many people consider Dan Savage to be ridiculous.
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Old 10-12-2013, 11:59 PM
 
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The book Sex at Dawn has quite a few examples from anthropology. From my own schooling, I remember the Miao people in China, and also Tibetan traditional culture. Oh, and various 'Eskimo' tribes. But there are others in the amazon, africa, and eastern europe, IIRC.

Well, everyone I know. Maybe I know weirdos.

As in the above post.
I think you're right.
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Old 10-13-2013, 11:35 AM
 
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Folks really are taking advice from a debased homosexual? I mean really.
We also get our humor from George Takei. It's shocking, I know. It's practically Gomorrah, isn't it?

It's Sunday, so you might consider praying extra hard at church and putting some money in the collection basket and singing an extra hymn. That might help.
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Old 10-13-2013, 12:50 PM
 
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We also get our humor from George Takei. It's shocking, I know. It's practically Gomorrah, isn't it?

It's Sunday, so you might consider praying extra hard at church and putting some money in the collection basket and singing an extra hymn. That might help.
Guy has a point though. Homosexual men have different views on fidelity than heterosexual women. (They have similar views to hetero men, but hetero men date women and therefore take female needs into consideration.) Lets don't go pretending we all are the same when we aren't.
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Old 10-13-2013, 01:29 PM
 
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What boggles my mind about this thread is the closing of minds. Two posters one with an I don't know how and won't listen to him comment and one who will not listen to the words for their own merit or lack thereof because the man is gay.

For myself I listen to Dan Savage the same way I listen to anyone else, with a critical mind. Does what he says make any sense? For instance, he makes an assertion that the expectation of monogamy is recent within the last 60 years. I am not prepared to call full blown BS on that. But I would want more information on how he came to that conclusion.

But the thing about his piece that resonated with me is the expectation that monogamy is the good, one, right way to be. I think he is wrong that the desire to have sex with multiple people is the compelling motivator. I think we are all big, fat love generators. We want to be close to each other. Religion and "society" has weighed and measured that into "acceptable" outlets and venues. In my opinion even sought to squelch it.
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