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Old 10-12-2013, 09:30 PM
 
Location: Katonah, NY
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21 and social circle is all around 18-24
Well, that explains things. See my post above. Don't take this the wrong way - but you are all still growing up. I think people change the most between the ages of 18 and 25 or 26. You can't really base gender relations on that select age group.
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Old 10-12-2013, 09:33 PM
 
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How old are you? You do realize that people are generally much more superficial when they are in high school and college than they are later in life - right? When I was a girl - and I mean like 10, 12 years old - I loved the book and the movies of Little Women. But I hated that Jo ended up with the ugly, old professor instead of the dashing, young Laurie. When I got older, I thought the professor was a much more desirable character than Laurie was - and I would have picked him as well. And I know that people on here like to make this out like "women only want the bad boys until their looks are gone and then they want the nice guy to take care of them." But I don't think that's it. Honestly, I just think that younger people don't have the emotional depth that they have when they get older. When you are younger - you judge a book by its cover. When you get older - you want to actually read the book.
What are you joking?

I'm almost 40. I've seen high school, college graduate school, my 20s and 30s, and I have to say people care about looks much more than I ever imagined. At every age level.
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Old 10-12-2013, 09:35 PM
 
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Well, that explains things. See my post above. Don't take this the wrong way - but you are all still growing up. I think people change the most between the ages of 18 and 25 or 26. You can't really base gender relations on that select age group.
so you're agreeing that it's a lot about looks at that age?

honestly that just leaves a lot of guys jaded by the time they hit their mid-late 20's (self evident by how many frustrated men take to the internet)

I figured you were born in 93 but i guess not lol
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Old 10-12-2013, 09:37 PM
 
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What are you joking?

I'm almost 40. I've seen high school, college graduate school, my 20s and 30s, and I have to say people care about looks much more than I ever imagined. At every age level.
Nope - not joking. But like I said before - if you focus on the negative things that happen around you - you probably miss the positive. Or maybe your social circle is made up of really shallow people. I don't know. All I know is that the majority of the people that I know found people they were compatible with. Some of them are more attractive than others - but the majority of them are all really great people. I don't really know any major a-holes, so I can't say if the women fawn all over them or not because I don't choose to associate with guys like that.
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Old 10-12-2013, 09:40 PM
 
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so you're agreeing that it's a lot about looks at that age?

honestly that just leaves a lot of guys jaded by the time they hit their mid-late 20's (self evident by how many frustrated men take to the internet)

I figured you were born in 93 but i guess not lol
No - I wasn't born in 93. That was just a significant year to me at the time and it stuck. It doesn't mean anything to me anymore but I still use it.

It's about looks at that age for BOTH genders. Overall, people are shallower when they are younger because they haven't had the life experience to make them deeper - if that makes sense. But despite that - I know a lot of guys that weren't that attractive but had amazing personalities - and they never lacked for dates.
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Old 10-12-2013, 09:59 PM
 
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That is true and something even I need to be reminded of every now and then.

But it has been shocking to me in my life how many 'nice' women have flocked to the feet of good looking jerks. I mean some of these guys were/are serious jerks. I mean if you had asked me when I was 20, I would not have expected those results.

It's easy to let the negative out when somebody posts a thread like this because I've seen a lot of negative. Then, you remind me that not all women are like that. Etc, etc. But even the women who don't chase after the good looking jerks need a certain minimum level of looks.

I think this is where the "nice guy" theory stems from. You get a lot of women "flocking" to be with what are quite honestly scum, which as an aside doesn't say much for a lot of women's decision making skills. Low-life s&*tbags who think nothing of beating, abusing, etc. In response to witnessing this, men watching this wonder WTF, and assume the opposite would or should logically attract women. They swing the pendulum too far to the opposite end (doormat status) and then wail and gnash their teeth that that doesn't work. The complaining comes in comparing themselves to the scumbags.
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Old 10-12-2013, 10:03 PM
 
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Nope - not joking. But like I said before - if you focus on the negative things that happen around you - you probably miss the positive. Or maybe your social circle is made up of really shallow people. I don't know. All I know is that the majority of the people that I know found people they were compatible with. Some of them are more attractive than others - but the majority of them are all really great people. I don't really know any major a-holes, so I can't say if the women fawn all over them or not because I don't choose to associate with guys like that.
I've something of the opposite before. If all you encounter is the negative, how do you know what to focus on as the positive?
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Old 10-12-2013, 10:06 PM
 
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First step is realizing that being a doormat will get them nowhere.


Even arrogance is better.

aha, so maybe i was onto something...earlier i have suggested that while confidence is crucial for a guy to have, unfounded confidence amounts to arrogance.

apparently, it turns out that many women are attracted to, or at least not put off by, arrogance.
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Old 10-12-2013, 10:06 PM
 
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No - I wasn't born in 93. That was just a significant year to me at the time and it stuck. It doesn't mean anything to me anymore but I still use it.

It's about looks at that age for BOTH genders. Overall, people are shallower when they are younger because they haven't had the life experience to make them deeper - if that makes sense. But despite that - I know a lot of guys that weren't that attractive but had amazing personalities - and they never lacked for dates.
I guess I just need to stop being a *****.
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Old 10-12-2013, 10:09 PM
 
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aha, so maybe i was onto something...earlier i have suggested that while confidence is crucial for a guy to have, unfounded confidence amounts to arrogance.

apparently, it turns out that many women are attracted to, or at least not put off by, arrogance.
My cousin is a typical criminal sociopath kind of guy and he always had success with women. He knocked up a 15 YEAR OLD.
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