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Well, if you want to have it make evolutionary sense, then men would be interested mostly in looks/youth and women in a man's status/access to resources. This would be because a man would want a woman who could bear children and a woman would want a man who could feed and protect the child. It explains why some ugly old men with status and money get trophy wives. Trophy husbands, while they happen, are rare.
Yes, but what exactly were the qualities associated with being a good provider in the prehistoric days? They strongly correlated with looks. The few men who were sleeping with all the women in those days were almost always tall, had square well defined jaws, possessed the so-called "hunter eyes", etc. the same qualities that good looking men possess today. While it's true status and extreme money can offset one's looks, the reality of the matter is the trophy wife will clearly be cheating on the poor sucker with those good looking guys and is more than likely already planning the divorce.
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The truth is though, attraction isn't simply or only about looks, status, personality, humor, etc... it's a combination of all these things. Some men and women value personality more, some value looks more, some value resources more. Most people (men and women) don't really value looks much past the initial getting to know you stage (unless they are looking for nothing more than a hookup). Good looks are only good as an ice breaker. So you just have to think of a way to get around that if you find it to be a problem for you. Win women over with something you do feel is a strength if you don't think looks are your strength. That's what I do with men. I am pretty much average, but men like me because I am friendly and happy... it's because I really do like people. A man might not look twice at me if I just stand there, but he notices a smile and a hello... or sometimes a joke of funny observation. That's my ice breaker.
This is actually not bad advice, but there's a bare minimum of required looks for this to work, which is usually equal to the average. If you've read my other thread, you'd realize I'm not average looking at all. I probably wouldn't be on here if I was. If women are disgusted and repulsed when I walk by them out in public, I strongly doubt any of them would be at all receptive to my advances no matter how charming, charismatic, or funny I am. There's simply is no hope, but it's really not so bad. Fortunately, there are other mediums in life to draw happiness and contentment from that doesn't involve women.
So the guy who has never had a girlfriend is qualified to speak about how women are/think/act?Oh right, he's not....Keep crunching those numbers, Tiger. For the record, being single is NOT why your co-workers think you are weird.
Attacking me doesn't make the facts any less true. Sorry.
Fortunately, there are other mediums in life to draw happiness and contentment from that doesn't involve women.
This is true... there is a lot more to living a happy life than women (or men). I wouldn't be so hard on yourself in the looks department--I think most of us are our own worst critics. But there are always ways to improve your looks (unless you are one of those people that spend hours a day on your looks in the first place).
Astute, considering all the problems you had finding a job, do you think posting ad nauseum about how Life Isn't Fair for Guys Like You is such a good idea?You don't have a girlfriend. You've never had a girlfriend. Whining about it on the internet isn't gonna get you a girlfriend.
That word is thrown around so much now that it has become the successor to the overused word "entitlement". Funny thing is, most of the people on this board never actually use it in the correct context.
Yes, this is exactly why Playgirl sells more magazines than Playboy. It's also why it's really difficult to find porn geared towards men as opposed to geared towards women and why strip clubs that feature all male performers VASTLY outnumber strips clubs that cater to men.
This hardly proves anything except for the fact that men practically idolize the top 10% of women in terms of looks. The point you fail to see is that men are willing to compromise and can just as easily be attracted to an average looking woman as they are to porn-stars. The same is obviously not true for women.
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From my personal experiences, men value women's looks FAR more than vise versa. Even most people on this forum will agree with that.
Are we talking about this same "personal experience" where all of your 10/10 runway model friends are dating overweight, 5 ft tall hideous men with no career prospects simply because they have a good "personality" and "confidence"?
This hardly proves anything except for the fact that men practically idolize the top 10% of women in terms of looks. The point you fail to see is that men are willing to compromise and can just as easily be attracted to an average looking woman as they are to porn-stars. The same is obviously not true for women. Are we talking about this same "personal experience" where all of your 10/10 runway model friends are dating overweight, 5 ft tall hideous men with no career prospects simply because they have a good "personality" and "confidence"?
Sure they'll settle...and try to cheat on the side to get what they really want, just like my ex who settled for me.
And when have I said I had any 10/10 runway model friends? Oh, strawman argument..got it.
Give me a break. Women are just like us men: if they like what they see then nothing else matters at that time, guy could me married, best friend's boyfriend, anything goes...
Give me a break. Women are just like us men: if they like what they see then nothing else matters at that time, guy could me married, best friend's boyfriend, anything goes...
Some women perhaps.
I would NEVER EVER go after a guy who is married or has a girlfriend. Ever. Period.
Maybe I just know a higher caliber of women? Because the women I keep in close company would never do that.
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