Why do women feel like they're owed marriage?

[udolipixie]

I think it's more of gals expect marriage after a certain time in relationship thinking it is the next step in a relationship no different than guys expect sex after a certain time in dating. I rarely find gals generally feeling anything is owed to them beyond respect...guys on the other hand seem to have quite a lot of entitlements especially in regards to the female body.

Gals initiating two-thirds in divorces doesn't suggest to me they need a lecture in commitment considering that they have committed and were likely eager to and it turned out to be an awful deal as in unhealthy/unhappy and there are limits to commitment. As well as likely guys aren't initiating as much as divorces due to skewed child custody/support laws.

[nearnorth]

Originally Posted by JetJockey

Seriously. People who think it's okay to drive (especially a stick shift) and browse the internet/text/reply on message boards are complete idiots.

Not only that, but people who do so with their children in their car as passengers are endangering the lives of the children. In many states citizens are required by law to report child endangerment when they have knowledge of it. If I knew this poster's real name and location, I'd have reported her already.

[trist3616]

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[SIZE=3]As a woman who doesn’t believe in marriage, I have to say I don't believewomen are owed anything.[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=3]However, if a woman wants to have kids, there is a certain amount of timefor the man to honestly decide if he is in fact going to commit or not. Womencan't produce children their entire lives. [/SIZE]
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[Melissa78703]

I don't think that women feel that they are "owed" marriage. When you're with someone for a certain amount of time and you really love that person -- regardless of how much they have in the bank -- you want to tell the rest of the world.

But there are practical considerations, too. If the person you loved were in a car wreck, wouldn't you want to be the first to know about it? If you had to make painful end-of-life decisions, wouldn't you want someone you knew would carry them out? I know what people will say, "There are contracts for that," but those contracts are easily rendered void you are not someone's primary family member.

And, I hate to break the news, but it's really tough for a single person to live off of a single person's retirement. A lot of people think that they're going to coast on SS, one pension, and Medicare, well, guess again. When you have two people working and contributing to their future, you don't have to worry about living in a one-bedroom efficiency in the crappy part of town eating cat food. (This is, of course, assuming that both people are working and contributing toward a retirement fund.)

[timberline742]

Originally Posted by Melissa78703

And, I hate to break the news, but it's really tough for a single person to live off of a single person's retirement. A lot of people think that they're going to coast on SS, one pension, and Medicare, well, guess again. When you have two people working and contributing to their future, you don't have to worry about living in a one-bedroom efficiency in the crappy part of town eating cat food. (This is, of course, assuming that both people are working and contributing toward a retirement fund.)

So you want to get married because you don't earn enough to retire the way you'd like to? Gotcha.

[ChessieMom]

Originally Posted by Melissa78703

I don't think that women feel that they are "owed" marriage. When you're with someone for a certain amount of time and you really love that person -- regardless of how much they have in the bank -- you want to tell the rest of the world.

But there are practical considerations, too. If the person you loved were in a car wreck, wouldn't you want to be the first to know about it? If you had to make painful end-of-life decisions, wouldn't you want someone you knew would carry them out? I know what people will say, "There are contracts for that," but those contracts are easily rendered void you are not someone's primary family member.

And, I hate to break the news, but it's really tough for a single person to live off of a single person's retirement. A lot of people think that they're going to coast on SS, one pension, and Medicare, well, guess again. When you have two people working and contributing to their future, you don't have to worry about living in a one-bedroom efficiency in the crappy part of town eating cat food. (This is, of course, assuming that both people are working and contributing toward a retirement fund.)

That should have NOTHING to do with one's wanting to get married. Get yourself in a better place. You are the ONLY one who can.

[Melissa78703]

Originally Posted by timberline742

So you want to get married because you don't earn enough to retire the way you'd like to? Gotcha.

Excuse me -- ? I do make a good income, but I'm realistic to know that my standard of living is going to eventually go way, way down unless I become a part one part of a two-income family.

Once my parents retired and my dad started having bad health issues, I saw just how much they had to shell out each month. Their COL increased exponentially, and their monthly income went down. These were two people who did well when they were working.

I am not saying that this is the sole reason to get married. But people who discount marriage as "just a piece of paper" are delusional. Like it or not, marriage can positively affect one's finances. I read an article recently that stated that the first factor that determines your likelihood to move upward financially is if you have a college education. Falling close second is if you are part of a two-income family.

[krieger00]

Originally Posted by Melissa78703

I don't think that women feel that they are "owed" marriage. When you're with someone for a certain amount of time and you really love that person -- regardless of how much they have in the bank -- you want to tell the rest of the world.

But there are practical considerations, too. If the person you loved were in a car wreck, wouldn't you want to be the first to know about it? If you had to make painful end-of-life decisions, wouldn't you want someone you knew would carry them out? I know what people will say, "There are contracts for that," but those contracts are easily rendered void you are not someone's primary family member.

And, I hate to break the news, but it's really tough for a single person to live off of a single person's retirement. A lot of people think that they're going to coast on SS, one pension, and Medicare, well, guess again. When you have two people working and contributing to their future, you don't have to worry about living in a one-bedroom efficiency in the crappy part of town eating cat food. (This is, of course, assuming that both people are working and contributing toward a retirement fund.)

Yep, you kind of have to if you have care job and live just above the poverty line AKA working poor. I would have to work for another 40/45 years b4 I can go into retirement. All my company gives you is a 401k that so little and a pen saying thanks at 65 and then a get the F out your fired go live on the streets.

That why going back to college is the most important thing to me right now. On top I can one day stop working and once i meet a girl i can have time to see my family.