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Very rarely, but for the sake of argument, let's pretend that the issue for these whiners is truly "unfixable." In that case, why waste time complaining on the internet about it? What does that accomplish? Do they think they're going to convince the overwhelming majority of men who are getting laid to give up on women just because a couple of losers aren't? Even if that would happen (good luck with that!), how does that help them?
most men are average by the nature of what "average" statistically means.
Sounds like you need to take a statistics class. How are most people not in the average range by the statistical definition of average? Are you suggesting a bimodal distribution? Not likely. Attractiveness, like most things, is more-or-less on a bell curve, with the majority of people falling in the "average" range.
Focus on becoming looking better. Do everything in your control. You'll see more rewards than if you were to instead focus on "confidence", "talking to women", etc. Those things will take care of themselves. Being attractive will make you better at talking to women since they'll want to get to know you. That in turn will help you develop confidence to talk to even more women.
Telling a guy to simply develop confidence and see where that takes him, is bad advice. It's putting the cart before the horse.
all this stuff about confidence is not baloney but the horse comes first then the carriage.
if there is a line of women dying to meet u, the confidence issue thing goes away fast.
Sounds like you need to take a statistics class. How are most people not in the average range by the statistical definition of average? Are you suggesting a bimodal distribution? Not likely. Attractiveness, like most things, is more-or-less on a bell curve, with the majority of people falling in the "average" range.
I'm pretty sure that's exactly what I said.
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Originally Posted by nearnorth
Very rarely, but for the sake of argument, let's pretend that the issue for these whiners is truly "unfixable." In that case, why waste time complaining on the internet about it? What does that accomplish? Do they think they're going to convince the overwhelming majority of men who are getting laid to give up on women just because a couple of losers aren't? Even if that would happen (good luck with that!), how does that help them?
Because it makes for interesting debate, challenging the status quo always does. So many people are under the delusion that intangible things like "personality" and "confidence" really matter more, but when confronted with the facts, would rather call us "whiners" and "losers" than actually address our points.
Also, it is truly in our best interest to debunk these delusions. In the real world, most people tend to subscribe to these same notions, and hence expect of us to get into relationships just because most other guys are in one. When they see we don't, they begin to make ridiculous assumptions about us which can lead to humiliation which can often adversely affect other aspects of our lives. If we can convince most people of the truth, that looks really are the only thing that matters, then most people will naturally not expect us to date or pursue relationships and will be more sympathetic than they are.
A few people refusing to accept reality, and starting repeated threads under duplicate usernames stating the same B.S., while refusing to accept responsibility for their lack of success with women, is neither interesting nor debate. It is boring worthless drivel.
Very rarely, but for the sake of argument, let's pretend that the issue for these whiners is truly "unfixable." In that case, why waste time complaining on the internet about it? What does that accomplish? Do they think they're going to convince the overwhelming majority of men who are getting laid to give up on women just because a couple of losers aren't? Even if that would happen (good luck with that!), how does that help them?
I disagree with very rarely nor would I characterize them as losers. I don't think they are trying to convince others either. They are just posting differing ideas/life experiences than you have had. That said there are some who are outrageously bitter and angry and I cannot understand that at all.
A few people refusing to accept reality, and starting repeated threads under duplicate usernames stating the same B.S., while refusing to accept responsibility for their lack of success with women, is neither interesting nor debate. It is boring worthless drivel.
And yet you respond to it thereby creating debate.
Because it makes for interesting debate, challenging the status quo always does. So many people are under the delusion that intangible things like "personality" and "confidence" really matter more, but when confronted with the facts, would rather call us "whiners" and "losers" than actually address our points.
Also, it is truly in our best interest to debunk these delusions. In the real world, most people tend to subscribe to these same notions, and hence expect of us to get into relationships just because most other guys are in one. When they see we don't, they begin to make ridiculous assumptions about us which can lead to humiliation which can often adversely affect other aspects of our lives. If we can convince most people of the truth, that looks really are the only thing that matters, then most people will naturally not expect us to date or pursue relationships and will be more sympathetic than they are.
dude.
All it takes is seeing contrary evidence with your own two eyes. Looks aren't all that matters, there is SO much evidence to the contrary that the only reason one would choose to believe looks are "it", is to protect themselves. To stay safe in their little miserable world, to collect evidence for its existence and to affirm one's CHOICE to not put themselves out there at all. People just choose not to see the obvious, that physical looks aren't actually the end all be all, some may say that but the actual actions of women tell a very different story.
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