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lol true, right? Funny how guys complain about us women being "emotional" yet so often when an attractive woman is in the mix it's as if all higher brain function stops.
Funny how you decided to turn this into a "boy, you other men sure do suck post". This is about the OP's friend and his "princess" GF who didn't do anything your wife does as SAHW. I know it's hard for you to admit but some women just suck.
If you think this thread is really about OP's friend's ex then you haven't read the whole thing, specifically the parts in which it exploded into a battle ground of finger pointing and furthering of stereotypes. Some of those comments may have been removed by now by one of the moderators. And while OP does not try to claim the person described at the onset is indeed a "traditional" person, some thoughts about how or what defines a "traditional" relationship surfaced.
Here is where I made my entry to the conversation, offering my POV on the subject as well as offering as good a POV as I can manage from the other side of the discussion. I can't fully understand a woman's side to this discussion, but it doesn't take a lot of energy to at least dedicate a few brain cells toward trying to see things their way. After all, being able to do that is part of what makes any relationship work. My comments were meant to stimulate critical thought. If you feel threatenend by it, so be it. Critical thinking and honest self assessment isn't for everyone. If all you got out of it was "other men suck" then you missed the point.
If you think this thread is really about OP's friend's ex then you haven't read the whole thing, specifically the parts in which it exploded into a battle ground of finger pointing and furthering of stereotypes. Some of those comments may have been removed by now by one of the moderators. And while OP does not try to claim the person described at the onset is indeed a "traditional" person, some thoughts about how or what defines a "traditional" relationship surfaced.
Here is where I made my entry to the conversation, offering my POV on the subject as well as offering as good a POV as I can manage from the other side of the discussion. I can't fully understand a woman's side to this discussion, but it doesn't take a lot of energy to at least dedicate a few brain cells toward trying to see things their way. After all, being able to do that is part of what makes any relationship work. My comments were meant to stimulate critical thought. If you feel threatenend by it, so be it. Critical thinking and honest self assessment isn't for everyone. If all you got out of it was "other men suck" then you missed the point.
I have missed whatever heated discussion was here on traditional roles. The moderators cleaned that up.
But it looks like you're digging way too hard for an angle that isn't present in the situation described by the OP about his friend and his friend's girl who pretty much wanted too mooch off this guy.
Look, I understand that even in traditional relationships, woman still does her fair share of work to keep the couple strong, it's a different type of work but work nonetheless. But the woman described in the OP's story didn't even want to fulfill that role which means she's not traditional, she's just a spoiled brat and the only thing the OP's buddy did wrong was getting with her in the first place. There's probably another side of the story but until that side comes forward, I'll call it like I see it because some women like the OP described simply exist.
BTW, it's hard to feel threatened by someone who misspells threatened.
What's hard to do is feel sympathy for a man would willingly get into a serious relationship with a selfish, sucky woman and then whine about it to his friends.
Exactly.
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lol true, right? Funny how guys complain about us women being "emotional" yet so often when an attractive woman is in the mix it's as if all higher brain function stops.
It adds fuel to the "men think with their little head" argument doesn't it.
I have missed whatever heated discussion was here on traditional roles. The moderators cleaned that up.
But it looks like you're digging way too hard for an angle that isn't present in the situation described by the OP about his friend and his friend's girl who pretty much wanted too mooch off this guy.
Not everyone's understanding of a conversation is as limited as yours.
You missed part of the conversation, but had you been able to read the whole thing, my post would have flowed a lot better. Either way, a conversation can and should be a living entity, not necessarily constrained to the limits of the original parameters. I don't think OP mentioned this girl to talk about her, but rather to introduce the larger concept of roles and responsibilities within a relationship. I can't speak for the OP, but that certainly seems to be what a lot of posters believed as well, because the discussion quickly evolved from the individual example given to the broader concept at large. And to that end, introducing a POV consistent with the topic but from the other side of the debate is never a bad thing.
I realize some people just want to have their say and not hear anything that challenges where they stand on a matter. If that's how they feel, perhaps discussion on a public forum is the wrong place.
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Look, I understand that even in traditional relationships, woman still does her fair share of work to keep the couple strong, it's a different type of work but work nonetheless. But the woman described in the OP's story didn't even want to fulfill that role which means she's not traditional, she's just a spoiled brat and the only thing the OP's buddy did wrong was getting with her in the first place. There's probably another side of the story but until that side comes forward, I'll call it like I see it because some women like the OP described simply exist.
There absolutely is another side to the story, so I take two approaches. First, I just take the OP at face value. I have no reason not to do so. The other approach is to assume I'm getting a half truth because I know I'm only getting one side of the story.
So if I take the OP at face value, I agree this person is a bit of a mooch, and not "traditional" at all. Women like her exist, no doubt about it. But if I assume I'm only getting one side of the story, I'd simply withhold judgment until I knew more. I'm not going to "call it like I see it" when I know I'm not seeing the whole picture.
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BTW, it's hard to feel threatened by someone who misspells threatened.
Everyone makes typos. If I made my superior spelling and grammar part of my argument, perhaps this would be a fair critique. But since you have taken time to focus on a simple mistake that anyone could have made I am inclined to believe my initial impression that you missed the point is spot on, and that you are indeed "threatenend" when the comforts of your ideals are challenged.
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