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I buy every time. Life is to short to waste on worrying about it. And no, she owes me nothing which is the only way I'll have it. I hate it when they try and go quid pro quo.
keep in mind that many women come to expect that because all the men they have dated have insisted on it. its not about entitelment.
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Originally Posted by fleetiebelle
That's fairly common. It's funny how some guys are blaming women for feeling entitled or greedy or whatever for not paying on dates, but they should put as much blame on their fellow men who grab the check and insist on paying.
I was thinking about this and there are very good points. The men started it. Men taking women out on dates is just men competing with other men for the affections of women. Its who can out wine and out dine just like males of other species uses their brilliant colors, beautiful song, dance, strength or even building abilities in competition to seduce and win over the females.
Some men are willing, even happy, to engage in this competition. If your a man that cant or wont compete, don't blame us women, blame your competitors.
Just look on the sunny side. You may have to invest financially in a number of fist dates but when you find the one you will be more than financially reimbursed over the course of your life with her earnings and other contributions to establishing a nice home and family.
I don't agree with this. If you really wanted to, we could to go DM about it, but I honestly think we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.
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Men taking women out on dates is just men competing with other men for the affections of women. Its who can out wine and out dine just like males of other species uses their brilliant colors, beautiful song, dance, strength or even building abilities in competition to seduce and win over the females.
Some men are willing, even happy, to engage in this competition. If your a man that cant or wont compete, don't blame us women, blame your competitors.
Now THIS, I totally agree with. It's something I lament very strongly, but it's currently the way of the world, so to speak. The same could be said about many things that women complain about. The ladies will be able to come up with more examples than I can, but I'm sure there are tons of things that suck for women, but they generally have to do in order to keep up in competition with other women.
There's no hard-and-fast rule. I've paid, he's paid or we've split. It has varied. Some men have been surprised when I have paid, and one was disappointed that I paid for part of the date (movie tickets).
I was thinking about this and there are very good points. The men started it. Men taking women out on dates is just men competing with other men for the affections of women. Its who can out wine and out dine just like males of other species uses their brilliant colors, beautiful song, dance, strength or even building abilities in competition to seduce and win over the females.
Some men are willing, even happy, to engage in this competition. If your a man that cant or wont compete, don't blame us women, blame your competitors.
I agree, the guys that bend over backwards for women are idiots. Any guy who lets a woman use him like that is in for a surprise when at the end of the day she just leaves him for someone else.
I don't agree with this. If you really wanted to, we could to go DM about it,
but I honestly think we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.
That was more or less a joke.
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Now THIS, I totally agree with. It's something I lament very strongly, but it's
currently the way of the world, so to speak. The same could be said about many
things that women complain about. The ladies will be able to come up with more
examples than I can, but I'm sure there are tons of things that suck for women,
but they generally have to do in order to keep up in competition with other
women.
Its similar to women who compete with each other in the looks department. They put all that time and energy into their hair, make-up, nails, clothes, weight and their sexuality to get the attention of men. At one time even their cooking ability was a competition to attract men.
So unless you were born a 10, you have to starve, wear tight fitting, revealing, uncomfortable, impractical clothing, spend excessive time and money styling, coloring and fluffing your hair, have this surgically lifted, that sucked and tucked and those enlarged just to look better than the next woman and hopefully catch a man's eye.
Men emptying their wallets for women. Women competing in the looks and weight department or doing most or all of the house chores. Men/Women being equally dumb like others have already said. Like other guys around here, gender entitlement doesn’t go with me.
I picked "whoever asked" because that's my assumption in a more advanced relationship (you've been dating for a while). But I could go with splinting it if both people kind of agreed to it/or you are dating someone new (first date for example). But the reality is, about half the men I've dated pay and some are very insistent on it. My personal take on it is I am prepared to pay for the whole thing, I offer to pay when the bill comes, and be politely thankful if he pays the whole thing.
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