Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
Correct, but is that really even a short term solution? I mean, I see where you're coming from but at the end of the day... these people are still not coming across the QUALITY women. Either way, my point stands that if a person cannot be successful in one country, they will not be successful in another.
Sure, going to a third world country and getting used for a while might be kind of nice to some.. but in reality it's nothing that's real and doesn't mean they're having "more success" in another country. It means they're just another naive gringo who doesn't understand the culture.
You're right, of course. It's just delaying the inevitable, which is eventually ending up old, alone and dead. But think of the point highlife2 makes, which is a very good point: in this country the guys who sit alone at home because they are judged losers by American girls' higher standards of quality, if they instead head for a foreign poverty-stricken country they are then being approached, pampered, and treated like royalty by the beautiful girls in that country. Sure it's all phony and just a ruse by the girl to get out of the country, but if a guy turns that advantage around in his favor he can string her along for as long as he can get away with it. Then when she realizes he's not going to do anything for her marriage-wise/green-card-wise and leaves him, he can just wait for the next beautiful girl to come along and then start the whole process again. And over and over through several decades until he is 60-70.
Yes, he never got the loving woman of his dreams and the house and the kids and the whole nine yards. But it sure was a hell of a fun ride for 30-40 years on the road to oblivion, wasn't it? At least it was a hell of a lot better than spending all those years here in America sitting alone in his apartment heading for oblivion anyway, watching TV and porn.
You're right, of course. It's just delaying the inevitable, which is eventually ending up old, alone and dead. But think of the point highlife2 makes, which is a very good point: in this country the guys who sit alone at home because they are judged losers by American girls' higher standards of quality, if they instead head for a foreign poverty-stricken country they are then being approached, pampered, and treated like royalty by the beautiful girls in that country. Sure it's all phony and just a ruse by the girl to get out of the country, but if a guy turns that advantage around in his favor he can string her along for as long as he can get away with it. Then when she realizes he's not going to do anything for her marriage-wise/green-card-wise and leaves him, he can just wait for the next beautiful girl to come along and then start the whole process again. And over and over through several decades until he is 60-70.
Yes, he never got the loving woman of his dreams and the house and the kids and the whole nine yards. But it sure was a hell of a fun ride for 30-40 years on the road to oblivion, wasn't it? At elast a hell of a lot better than spending them sitting alone in his apartment watching TV and porn.
Thank you, I know the woman on this site don't like me but I did not get where I am by being stupid. Calculating maybe but not stupid.
Thank you, I know the woman on this site don't like me but I did not get where I am by being stupid. Calculating maybe but not stupid.
I know girls here will be livid at my thesis because girls, no matter where they are, stick together---Sisterhood of the Pants or something. They don't mind abusing guys, but they absolutely go ballistic when guys abuse poor, foreign girls. It's a double-standard for sure. But as you say, the trick is to be cool and calculating and use them before they use you and not be a sucker for a pretty face.
And I just know that the very few female acquaintances I had here just went south, but girls---what I say is rational, honest and practical and really the only solution a guy has if he's willing to uproot himself and travel to another country to escape the circumstances he finds himself in here in America.
I know girls here will be livid at my thesis because girls, no matter where they are, stick together---Sisterhood of the Pants or something. They don't mind abusing guys, but they absolutely go ballistic when guys abuse poor, foreign girls. It's a double-standard for sure. But as you say, the trick is to be cool and calculating and use them before they use you and not be a sucker for a pretty face.
And I just know that the very few female acquaintances I had here just went south, but girls---what I say is rational, honest and practical and really the only solution a guy has if he's willing to uproot himself and travel to another country to escape the circumstances he finds himself in in this country.
That's really the bigger issue than worrying about what the women will think. Learning the language, finding established expat communities, saving enough money to basically retire there (about 100k), learning the language, getting the visa.
I am currently learning Russian just in case, I know Russian women are opportunistic but not all Russian women are super hot and if you can land a good job there as an expat women will swoon even if they know your not taking them to the USA. Of course they will be like 5s but if your over there its because you could not even muster that in the US. If you go to Russia you basically have to be a registered engineer or a scientist though, for me it works out but not for everyone.
I have never been over seas yet but I have worked out most all of the logistics now I just need to get better at the language, if you don't speak the language it will be harder to get around and find the women. As long as my gf is happy with me I have no reason to go anywhere but I want to have everything set up to go because I am SO tired of getting on POF/match what have you and dealing with the nasty looks when you smile at women out in public, etc.
I think the other big factor is mentally preparing for it, I mean your leaving family and friends for a better life. Of course that's what our ancestors did back in the day to come to the USA before it was a cesspool. Sure you might come back from time to time but not often because if you go to some place like the phillipines you likely wont be able to work there so every time you fly back you take a hit out of your savings.
Also if you do find a really nice woman over there its not a big deal to get married, they have strict catholic laws and women don't have a right to divorce unless there is a REALLY good reason, if you treat her well she will treat you like a king especially if she is just so so looking. The US/canada and parts of western Europe are the only places that have messed up family laws.
You're right, of course. It's just delaying the inevitable, which is eventually ending up old, alone and dead. But think of the point highlife2 makes, which is a very good point: in this country the guys who sit alone at home because they are judged losers by American girls' higher standards of quality, if they instead head for a foreign poverty-stricken country they are then being approached, pampered, and treated like royalty by the beautiful girls in that country. Sure it's all phony and just a ruse by the girl to get out of the country, but if a guy turns that advantage around in his favor he can string her along for as long as he can get away with it. Then when she realizes he's not going to do anything for her marriage-wise/green-card-wise and leaves him, he can just wait for the next beautiful girl to come along and then start the whole process again. And over and over through several decades until he is 60-70.
Yes, he never got the loving woman of his dreams and the house and the kids and the whole nine yards. But it sure was a hell of a fun ride for 30-40 years on the road to oblivion, wasn't it? At least it was a hell of a lot better than spending all those years here in America sitting alone in his apartment heading for oblivion anyway, watching TV and porn.
I already addressed these things in my other post. Take a quick look at it.
I already addressed these things in my other post. Take a quick look at it.
But you kind of gave it a negative twist, its the same advice I give to guys to leave the country if they are drowning in child support and cant get laid to save their life. Its better to abandon your kids and cut off support by going over seas than to kill yourself. Sorry I don't care what kind of hostile self righteous response I get, I think pushing someone to the point they want to die through financial slavery is evil and people need to stop feeding the monster.
That's really the bigger issue than worrying about what the women will think. Learning the language, finding established expat communities, saving enough money to basically retire there (about 100k), learning the language, getting the visa.
I am currently learning Russian just in case, I know Russian women are opportunistic but not all Russian women are super hot and if you can land a good job there as an expat women will swoon even if they know your not taking them to the USA. Of course they will be like 5s but if your over there its because you could not even muster that in the US. If you go to Russia you basically have to be a registered engineer or a scientist though, for me it works out but not for everyone.
I have never been over seas yet but I have worked out most all of the logistics now I just need to get better at the language, if you don't speak the language it will be harder to get around and find the women. As long as my gf is happy with me I have no reason to go anywhere but I want to have everything set up to go because I am SO tired of getting on POF/match what have you and dealing with the nasty looks when you smile at women out in public, etc.
I think the other big factor is mentally preparing for it, I mean your leaving family and friends for a better life. Of course that's what our ancestors did back in the day to come to the USA before it was a cesspool. Sure you might come back from time to time but not often because if you go to some place like the phillipines you likely wont be able to work there so every time you fly back you take a hit out of your savings.
Also if you do find a really nice woman over there its not a big deal to get married, they have strict catholic laws and women don't have a right to divorce unless there is a REALLY good reason, if you treat her well she will treat you like a king especially if she is just so so looking. The US/canada and parts of western Europe are the only places that have messed up family laws.
The idea of moving to another country because you think you might find a woman is perhaps one of the dumbest things you can do.
If you can find a 5 in Russia, you can find one in USA.
Why the heck would you want to live in a place like Russia?
Have you ever been there? I agree with a few things you say, but seriously the way you talk you sound more naive about the world outside the US than a 15 year old who just got a lesson on why communism is great from his liberal social studies teacher.
But you kind of gave it a negative twist, its the same advice I give to guys to leave the country if they are drowning in child support and cant get laid to save their life. Its better to abandon your kids and cut off support by going over seas than to kill yourself. Sorry I don't care what kind of hostile self righteous response I get, I think pushing someone to the point they want to die through financial slavery is evil and people need to stop feeding the monster.
I'm not being self righteous, I don't care if a guy wants to use a girl for sex. What I'm saying is that most guys who are pathetic enough to have to leave the country to find someone are going to be needy and fall for a piece of trash gold digger.
Majority of guys wouldn't be able to separate the sex from reality and would end up screwed over and more bitter than before.
If you clipped your aileron and it was about to fall off, would you still fly with scotch tape on it?
The idea of moving to another country because you think you might find a woman is perhaps one of the dumbest things you can do.
If you can find a 5 in Russia, you can find one in USA.
Why the heck would you want to live in a place like Russia?
Have you ever been there? I agree with a few things you say, but seriously the way you talk you sound more naive about the world outside the US than a 15 year old who just got a lesson on why communism is great from his liberal social studies teacher.
I have not been there, I am learning the language and plan on going to Sakhalin either this summer or next summer depending on when I am confident I can adequately communicate. I have a good gf now so I will just be going to check things out. They have a massive oil and gas field so I may have to move there for work if our obamanation shuts down production in the USA. I am guessing that the communities near the oil and gas facilities are not half bad and there are 7000 more women than men on the island and the Russians kicked all the natives and japeneese off so you know it will just be white women.
But yoru right ultiamtly I have not got on the plane and gone there yet so it may not be that great.
I'm not being self righteous, I don't care if a guy wants to use a girl for sex. What I'm saying is that most guys who are pathetic enough to have to leave the country to find someone are going to be needy and fall for a piece of trash gold digger.
Majority of guys wouldn't be able to separate the sex from reality and would end up screwed over and more bitter than before.
If you clipped your aileron and it was about to fall off, would you still fly with scotch tape on it?
Im not talking about you, im talking about some of the owmen that get on here and get up in arms about some of the stuff I say.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
At least it was a hell of a lot better than spending all those years here in America sitting alone in his apartment heading for oblivion anyway, watching TV and porn.