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Old 06-05-2014, 07:47 PM
 
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Really? Even if one person is carrying massive debt or has bad credit? That's not building a solid foundation. That's just saddling another person with your financial woes.
Depends on what the debt is from.

If someone has debt from attending medical school one would view that debt differently.

I don't think everyone who has a bad credit score stays in that rut forever though...but each person has to evaluate that risk for themselves.
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Old 06-05-2014, 07:49 PM
 
Location: Up above the world so high!
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Really? Even if one person is carrying massive debt or has bad credit? That's not building a solid foundation. That's just saddling another person with your financial woes.
See, this is what some guys just can't seem to appreciate from the outside looking in, a good relationship/marriage is priceless - worth more than all the gold or precious gems in the world.

To answer your question...If one or both of the people in a good marriage has debt they can usually pay if off twice as quickly than if they were all alone.
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Old 06-05-2014, 07:54 PM
 
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Think like me? Where did I say I'm looking for a partner who adds something to my life? The issue is whether you or the other person potentially makes the other person's financial position worse and whether that's a valid reason to hold off on getting married. If I had $100,000 in debt I was still paying off, I would completely understand a woman holding that against me. That's not to say debt is a character flaw. People have debt for all kinds of reasons that have nothing to do with their character. But since marriage is about joining two people's lives, then it makes perfect sense to factor in each person's financial state.
Debt is bad, there's no doubt about it... but there's a difference between being low income/poor and being in debt.

You can be low income, debt-free, live within your means, and be completely happy together. If you're creative and motivated, you can make anything work.

I really don't think it's psychologically healthy to put economics before basic human relations.
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Old 06-05-2014, 07:56 PM
 
Location: Up above the world so high!
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Debt is bad, there's no doubt about it... but there's a difference between being low income/poor and being in debt.

You can be low income, debt-free, live within your means, and be completely happy together. If you're creative and motivated, you can make anything work.

I really don't think it's psychologically healthy to put economics before basic human relations.
THIS.

THANK YOU!
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Old 06-05-2014, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Huntersville/Charlotte, NC and Washington, DC
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Debt is bad, there's no doubt about it... but there's a difference between being low income/poor and being in debt.

You can be low income, debt-free, live within your means, and be completely happy together. If you're creative and motivated, you can make anything work.

I really don't think it's psychologically healthy to put economics before basic human relations.
May not be psychologically healthy but it is Russian Roulette to not include economics as a very important factor as to what you do with LTRs. I work in finance and I see the consequences of people not taking finances into consideration before partnering off every day.
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Old 06-05-2014, 08:12 PM
 
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See, this is what some guys just can't seem to appreciate from the outside looking in, a good relationship/marriage is priceless - worth more than all the gold or precious gems in the world.

To answer your question...If one or both of the people in a good marriage has debt they can usually pay if off twice as quickly than if they were all alone.
Is it fair to expect your partner to work hard at their job in order to pay off a debt you incurred before you even met them? What if you lose your job and can't find another one? Now your partner is on the hook for your debt. You say a good marriage is worth all the gold in the world. This is naive sentiment. Money is the number one issue that causes marriages to fail. So to pretend love conquers all flies in the face of what we've seen happen to so many marriages.
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Old 06-05-2014, 08:14 PM
 
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I really don't think it's psychologically healthy to put economics before basic human relations.
I think it's selfish to expect your partner to pay off your debt.
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Old 06-05-2014, 08:15 PM
 
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May not be psychologically healthy but it is Russian Roulette to not include economics as a very important factor as to what you do with LTRs. I work in finance and I see the consequences of people not taking finances into consideration before partnering off every day.
THIS.

THANK YOU!
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Old 06-05-2014, 08:19 PM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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See, this is what some guys just can't seem to appreciate from the outside looking in, a good relationship/marriage is priceless - worth more than all the gold or precious gems in the world.

Put down the disney books and deal with the real world. Love doesn't conquer all. It just doesn't.

It conquers most things, but not all.
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Old 06-05-2014, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Huntersville/Charlotte, NC and Washington, DC
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Put down the disney books and deal with the real world. Love doesn't conquer all. It just doesn't.

It conquers most things, but not all.
Exactly. Love is all well and good but you can't cut checks or buy food or pay rent with it.
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