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Ends do not justify all means. As I said if you let someone bug you enough that you made wantonly and knowingly false statements in order to get some kind of "one up" then save your disparagement for yourself - not for me.
And you still don't get it.
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Peronally I can not imagine letting anyone on a forum annoy or bug me - let alone to the point I willingly represent myself that poorly.
And if you read my last reply, I explained that, which you still aren't getting.
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I saw two statements that were false - I explained why I saw them as false - and you agree the statements are false. I am not sure why you keep wasting your time on it.
Because I addressed it in my last post. if you read, you would understand where I am coming from. if you didn't read it, oh well. but I explained my part, and ever clearly there.
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I am - and will continue to do so. I am not the one complaining it is a waste of time. I am happy to keep replying. No one is forcing you to do so - except you yourself.
I don't mind the replying. Just that you're are not understanding what I am sayin, which you aren't. Explained in my last post.
Nah, no bad day. Sometimes I'm just a little sarcastic a hole. You seem like a cool person, and I'm man enough to admit when I'm wrong.
Thank you. I appreciate it. Hopefully we can ignore all that other crap. If someone gives me an apology, I accept. So, if you have a great job and a girlfriend, congrats to you on both.Hope you do well with both.
I do complain alot of the forum, but just as a vent. I do plan to move out of my parents' house, I am just saving money now. And I do plan to change my approach with dating. Just until then, I like to sometimes vent a bit, and online where you can still be somewhat anonymous just works a bit better. And you can meet people who have the same issue.
So, thank you for your apology. And I apologize for anything I said toward you that was judgmental or false.
Do what's right for you, if that means calling up an escort for sex and companionship then go for it. I wouldn't judge any man or woman who wanted to spend thier money this way. Too bad it's not legal in most places.
Do what's right for you, if that means calling up an escort for sex and companionship then go for it. I wouldn't judge any man or woman who wanted to spend thier money this way. Too bad it's not legal in most places.
Unfortunately that is a WHOLE different kettle of fish. Thankfully however the OP did specific the "If it is ok for guys then - " in his post. So for the purposes of this thread I think we have to take it legality as a given. Which is likely just as well.
For many - as I said in my last post but that bit did not get replied to - it is difficult to acknowledge that women have the same drives and desires as men. And that they might excercise the same level of autonomy and choice over those desires as men is even more discomforting.
Men do not just attend the company of escorts because they can not "get it" anywhere else. The motivations are many-fold.
There is no reason - certainly none given by the detractors of such women on this thread - to expect women to be any different. Certainly not because of some perceived notion that women can "get it" easier than men can.
Thank you. I appreciate it. Hopefully we can ignore all that other crap. If someone gives me an apology, I accept. So, if you have a great job and a girlfriend, congrats to you on both.Hope you do well with both.
I do complain alot of the forum, but just as a vent. I do plan to move out of my parents' house, I am just saving money now. And I do plan to change my approach with dating. Just until then, I like to sometimes vent a bit, and online where you can still be somewhat anonymous just works a bit better. And you can meet people who have the same issue.
So, thank you for your apology. And I apologize for anything I said toward you that was judgmental or false.
That's cool to vent, we all need to blow off so steam every now and then. I'm from Houston, but I stayed in Atlanata for a short time when my mom moved down there, but I didn't like so I came back to Houston and I had to stay with my aunt until I got on my feet, and I was 23. So I wouldn't worry about it too much, plus you don't have to explain anything to me, that wasn't any of my business.
But, as I stated, they have more and better chance for obligation than getting someone random off the street just because it's cheap and easier.
Keep believing that if you want, but that doesn't appear to be how it works in real life, based on the experiences of some of the posters here and many others. If your experience is different, meaning you find that escorts please you better than other men, then by all means feel free to use them. That doesn't appear to be how it works for most, though.
Keep believing that if you want, but that doesn't appear to be how it works in real life, based on the experiences of some of the posters here and many others. If your experience is different, meaning you find that escorts please you better than other men, then by all means feel free to use them. That doesn't appear to be how it works for most, though.
I don't use escorts. Doesn't mean that women that use them do better to hire them than just get a guy off the street who probably is just going to want what he wants rather than care to please his partner.
As someone here stated, go to a man in a bar and tell him you just want him to give you oral with no penetration or reciprocation on your part to him, and see what you get. Chances are he'll tell the girl to **** off.
An escort, if you get a good one, from an agency, or good place, will be looking out for their customer's pleasure because that's how they get paid. They please so people will come back. Some escorts may have things they won't do, but you have a better pick of finding someone that would suit you so whatever wants you have are met.
But getting a random man off the street? Yeah, chances are he won't be as good as an escort. I hear many posters say that, plus that have examples of women who have been well satisfied using escorts.
So, if you aren't a woman, and/or haven't used an escort, your opinion is no more valid than mine. Unless you have interviewed every woman on earth. Otherwise, women going to escorts may look for a tad more than when men go to a hooker, which some hear has stated.
That much is obvious, based on the distorted view you appear to have of them. As with anything, I'm going to trust the views of those who have experience with it over those who don't.
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An escort, if you get a good one, from an agency, or good place, will be looking out for their customer's pleasure because that's how they get paid. They please so people will come back. Some escorts may have things they won't do, but you have a better pick of finding someone that would suit you so whatever wants you have are met.
Yes, I realize this is what you think. You made that clear several posts ago. Again, it doesn't seem to fit the experience of those who actually have experience with them. There is a reason few women use escorts (including yourself, btw). It's because they can usually get as good or better for free. The market speaks for itself. If there was a high demand for men to be paid to please women (as there is with women to please men and men to please men), there would be a lot of male escorts making money servicing women. There isn't. This is ECON 101 stuff here.
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So, if you aren't a woman, and/or haven't used an escort, your opinion is no more valid than mine.
That is correct-- neither of our opinions is valid. The opinions of those who have used them, however, as well as the actual facts of who does and does not use them, are very valid. That's what I'm addressing, and what you are denying.
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That much is obvious, based on the distorted view you appear to have of them. As with anything, I'm going to trust the views of those who have experience with it over those who don't.
And I have heard from those who have experience, and stated is was good, or great as some women loved the experience.
If you haven't used one, then you don't know they all aren't good. There's good ones, and bad ones. but like anything you have to pick before you just spend your money on anything. Like eating at a restaurant. Some are expensive and good. Some are dirty and suck and wasn't worth any money.
And my view isn't distorted given the people who have agreed with me, and have friends that have used them.
So, do I use escorts?, no but if it came to that when I was older, better to take a chance with that 1st the any ol' guy on the street that you get just because he's free, because he will have a higher chance of being selfish than if you find a good escort, and let him know what you want.
So, not all escorts are bad, and of course not all are good.
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You seem like a cool person, and I'm man enough to admit when I'm wrong.
