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Yes, online dating is much more prevalent than it was, say, 50 years ago. But how can you say "most" dating is done online? Have you found a way to quantify that dating which does not take place online? Because if not you can't really say "most."
Well stop going to gay bars and maybe you'll see some male-female interaction!
It is always a possibility, yes. However, it is not a sure thing. I've been married for over 8 years so I am of the market, but I used to cold approach a lot. Including the woman to whom I am currently married. Cold approaching is a skill that takes discernment to know when an approach is welcome or unwanted. Women will give you signals, you just have to be able to recognize them and bold enough to step up to the plate. Oh, and don't give me this, "Things have changed since you've been married..." BS. A lot of the signs that I often rightly interpreted as "approach if you want" I still see when I'm out and about today. The only thing that has changed is me: I'm already married now.
Speak for yourself.
That is something else that is actually not new. Most pickup lines are idiotic and sophomoric. I don't think they were ever developed as an actual tool to meet women so much as comic relief. Anyone who actually uses one deserve the outcome he receives. If you've been labeled a creep for using a pickup line, you may actually be one.
Excellent points ikf, and it made me curious about your question, "Have you found a way to quantify that dating which does not take place online?", so of course I 'plugged' the question into a google search, far too many views to post here in the time frame I want to devote to it, so...
Everyone with a brain cell knows that most dating is all done online. People look at other people's pictures and profiles and then decide to show interest, make contact and engage into friendship and eventual dating.
Most of this is controlled by women and not the men. Women decide who they want to date.
Outside the online dating world, i.e., bars, clubs, popular hang outs, etc. all you see is women with women and men with men, with very little interest or interaction between the two groups. A sure sign that offline dating or getting to know people offline is probably DEAD.
And everyone with two brain cells knows that this is not true.
Everyone with a brain cell knows that most dating is all done online. People look at other people's pictures and profiles and then decide to show interest, make contact and engage into friendship and eventual dating.
Most of this is controlled by women and not the men. Women decide who they want to date.
Outside the online dating world, i.e., bars, clubs, popular hang outs, etc. all you see is women with women and men with men, with very little interest or interaction between the two groups. A sure sign that offline dating or getting to know people offline is probably DEAD.
Any single guy at a grocery store approaching a single girl he may be attracted to and wants to know better will likely be labeled as a creep or pervert before he gets a few words out. Same at the gymn, clubs, bars work and probably even at school.
In fact, roles have reversed. It's no longer about guys chasing girls for friendship, dating or even marriage. Girls are the ones that decide whether they want a guy or not. Once a girl decides on a guy, she will let him know. Men have become wimps when it comes to dating offline. They won't approach for fear of rejection and for fear of being labeled creepy.
America Dating Scene today: If they CLICK online, they may meet offline and develop a relationship.
If you find this post strange, you're probably too young. But in the past, men actually approached women. It used to be called pick up lines. No such thing nowadays. Trying a pick up line with a girls will grant you the label of CREEPY. In the past, before the Internet, there was nothing creepy about a guy approaching a girl that interested him and vice-versa.
Dude, give it up. If you've ever wondered why you have trouble dating, it's all right here. ^^ Look no further.
As someone older, the only difference I really notice is there was not OLD when I was young. Besides that, I really do not think much has changed is the general dynamics of dating.
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Everyone with a brain cell knows that most dating is all done online. People look at other people's pictures and profiles and then decide to show interest, make contact and engage into friendship and eventual dating.
Most of this is controlled by women and not the men. Women decide who they want to date.
Outside the online dating world, i.e., bars, clubs, popular hang outs, etc. all you see is women with women and men with men, with very little interest or interaction between the two groups. A sure sign that offline dating or getting to know people offline is probably DEAD.
Any single guy at a grocery store approaching a single girl he may be attracted to and wants to know better will likely be labeled as a creep or pervert before he gets a few words out. Same at the gymn, clubs, bars work and probably even at school.
In fact, roles have reversed. It's no longer about guys chasing girls for friendship, dating or even marriage. Girls are the ones that decide whether they want a guy or not. Once a girl decides on a guy, she will let him know. Men have become wimps when it comes to dating offline. They won't approach for fear of rejection and for fear of being labeled creepy.
America Dating Scene today: If they CLICK online, they may meet offline and develop a relationship.
If you find this post strange, you're probably too young. But in the past, men actually approached women. It used to be called pick up lines. No such thing nowadays. Trying a pick up line with a girls will grant you the label of CREEPY. In the past, before the Internet, there was nothing creepy about a guy approaching a girl that interested him and vice-versa.
Although it certainly trends toward online contact, if you are polite and respectful when approaching, and approach a woman who has a friendly demeanor toward an approach, you can have success the old school way.
Everyone with a brain cell knows that most dating is all done online. People look at other people's pictures and profiles and then decide to show interest, make contact and engage into friendship and eventual dating.
Most of this is controlled by women and not the men. Women decide who they want to date.
I am 44, so I hope I am not too young to comment on this.
My understanding is that about 20% of new relationships start online nowadays. While 20% is a significant percentage, it is not "most."
I am also unclear why you think women have all the control. You complain that "women decide who they want to date." Well, yes, that's true. But why is that a problem? Are you saying women should have to date men they don't want to date?
Honestly, I think the difficulties you are talking about come from the fact that most OLD sites have a very skewed male to female ratio. Not only do men tend to outnumber women by a wide margin on most OLD sites, but men are often also seeking very different things than women.
POF founder Markus Frind recently said that of the 3 million or so people who visit his site daily, only about 3,000 are women looking for hookups. The vast majority of female users are seeking relationships. However, the number of men looking for hookups is huge, perhaps numbering in the hundred of thousands. The result is a mismatch between genders. The men on POF are often frustrated by the lack of response they get from women, and women on POF often complain about the endless sexual come-ons they get from men. It was a serious enough problem that Frind made major changes to the format of the site to deal with it.
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