More men choosing to be single or unmarried (partner, clothes, clubs)
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if you are a 30 year old kidult sitting on moms living room floor playing video child games, jobless and flunked out of school, waiting for mommy to feed you, being single is an easy choice.
The only positive I can potentially see is IF instead his destiny otherwise was to create offspring with one or more women then be shackled with CS payments for each. So in that case scenario you stated would be much better for him.
That's why you don't enter a marriage with a large income differential.
That's why one doesn't enter any marriage period as that income differential can change and or she decides (this does exist and happens) as to quite her job and not to work any more then after a year or so file for divorce. If he does the same the judge will tell him to "man up" and will get nothing while for the woman she gets rewarded.
This is pretty much how it is and the crude truth on how the laws and society sees and enacts this.
This is false. Even with IVF (which is only successful 1/3 of the time if that much), the ability to have children GREATLY diminishes when the woman is passed 35 or so, anecdotal evidence aside.
Well, yeah fertility (on average) drops by mid 30s, but a women is still fertile until menopause (which, at average is 51 years old). And with modern medicine, you can increase your fertility with drugs by altering your hormone levels and how many eggs are released to be fertilized (you don't even need to go IVF although that further increases chances).
Look at "the greatest generation." They typically had the first child in early 20s, then another in mid 20s, late 20s, early 30s, then maybe mid 30s because they wanted lots of kids (4-5 kids). But they were having kids well into their mid 30s (and like I said, both of my youngest uncles were born to my grandparents when my grandmothers were 40 and 42 respectively... and that's without any drugs or modern medicine).
My point is, years ago, parents were starting to have babies in their 20s because there were no other options and if they wanted their "dream family of 4-5 kids, they had to start early. Now people typically want no more than 1 or 2 kids if they even want kids at all. So they can wait until their 30s when in the past people had their last couple of kids. And if their fertility is decreased, they can turn to modern medicine to increase it.
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After being married for 25 years IMO men are now expected to be more empathetic and understanding, yet manly usually when their SO wants them to be. Even then he must strike the right balance between the two (masculine vs nurturing) or there will be untold damage and chaos to the relationship. Men who are not in a relationship see this dynamic (or were involved in the same thing) and decide not to be in a committed relationship, or get back into one. I also think that years ago men and women had more clearly defined roles, and while I understand that times have changed there seems to be a stigma attached to a "man being a man". Men (again IMO) are expected to change and adapt to this much more than women. Those who can have a continuing relationship, and those who can't end up divorced. Once divorced a good number of those men who now experience their opinions without consequences decide life is better this way.
In my opinion, marriage is outdated. People nowadays get married for all the wrong reasons and not for the values that it was intended.
-Some couples get married right away because their so caught up in the lust of being with someone they initially connect with that they think its love when its really not.
-Women are constantly being pressured by society to get married.
As a man I'm content with just being able to be with and spend time with someone with whom I'm compatible with. If marriage comes then it comes. It's definitely not an immediate priority though.
Part of me fantasizes a significant decline of marriage rates. I wonder what this society will be like and how it will respond. Of course, it's unlikely that the majority of people don't marry. But it's certainly intriguing to think about such a scenario.
I doubt many will take notice. People have been living as a couple without marriage for a long time, long distance relationships seem to be on the rise and a great percentage of children are raised in single parent hh or by relatives. Personally, if it weren't for co-workers and their family and friends getting married every month and me having to hear all about it, I wouldn't give marriage rates a second thought.
The question is how it became so competitive? Are there fewer men than women? Or more women unavailable and men available? Or too many people pursuing limited number of candidates while ignoring other candidates?
It's competitive for men, more now than ever.
Women can rely on the Gov't for financial support and the "unmarried woman" stigma went away decades ago.
Men not only have to compete against other men, but against the Gov't through welfare/social programs to be the traditional provider/protector. Divorces are up and family courts are overwhelmingly in favor of women.
And more women are working/in college today than ever.
Men are competing against women in a job market that has no clear dividing lines with gender.
Women don't need men anymore.
This is the biggest difference in generations past and what's going on today.
Women can rely on the Gov't for financial support and the "unmarried woman" stigma went away decades ago.
Men not only have to compete against other men, but against the Gov't through welfare/social programs to be the traditional provider/protector. Divorces are up and family courts are overwhelmingly in favor of women.
And more women are working/in college today than ever.
Women don't need men anymore.
This is the biggest difference in generations past and what's going on today.
Women need attractive men to approach thats what I learned when I tried approaching ugly men shouldn't even try.
That is the main reason I don't want to get married. Divorce terrifies me. A lot of women can be vindictive during divorce. I can't take that risk.
I think women tend to be vindictive in general.
Ever work in an office full of women? Ever notice their "sheeplike" behavior? Heard any stories about women ganging up on an individual to get them fired over something trivial? False harassment accusations?
You don't even have to be in a relationship with them to be in danger.
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