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Old 09-06-2014, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Seal Beach, California
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I think the stupidest aspect about the PUA industry is the idea that a woman does not determine her own preferences and that somehow there is a formula that works on all women.

At the end of the day if a woman likes you, then she likes you. I've went on dates where I was completely shy and awkward, but the woman still stayed and kept talking, and other times where I was pretty smooth, but there clearly was no mutual interest.

If someone likes you, then they like you. I've literally read PUA material that shows you can get ANY woman. That's not even remotely true.

It's much easier than most people think.
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Old 09-06-2014, 05:58 PM
 
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I think the stupidest aspect about the PUA industry is the idea that a woman does not determine her own preferences and that somehow there is a formula that works on all women.

At the end of the day if a woman likes you, then she likes you. I've went on dates where I was completely shy and awkward, but the woman still stayed and kept talking, and other times where I was pretty smooth, but there clearly was no mutual interest.

It's much easier than most people think.
Unless the guy is ugly, short, or of an undesirable race. These are generally the guys that end up doing PUA anyway. Women are not interested in them so they look for reasons other than things they can't change. But the things they can't change are precisely the reason why most women don't find them attractive. It sucks, but that's the way it goes.
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Old 09-06-2014, 06:06 PM
 
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Somewhat off the topic at hand, but I now know why I never approached women when I was in high school or college: it is too much anxiety for the little benefit it ends up being. I'm thankful for the one (likely) lasting friend I made out of approaching, but other than that, it's probably resulted in losing more weight due to anxiousness (and I can't afford to lose any more) in addition to giving me a sour outlook on the openness of women.
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Old 09-06-2014, 06:39 PM
 
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I think the stupidest aspect about the PUA industry is the idea that a woman does not determine her own preferences and that somehow there is a formula that works on all women.

At the end of the day if a woman likes you, then she likes you. I've went on dates where I was completely shy and awkward, but the woman still stayed and kept talking, and other times where I was pretty smooth, but there clearly was no mutual interest.

If someone likes you, then they like you. I've literally read PUA material that shows you can get ANY woman. That's not even remotely true.

It's much easier than most people think.
There IS no specific formula that works on all women, however, a specific subset of men do poorly with ALL women.

The PUA material is essentially a magic pill that's being sold, and it's somewhat easy to sell to the demographic of desperate men.

Sure, meeting women is easy for normal men, but for loners?

That's a war they are fighting.
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Old 09-06-2014, 06:42 PM
 
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Unless the guy is ugly, short, or of an undesirable race. These are generally the guys that end up doing PUA anyway. Women are not interested in them so they look for reasons other than things they can't change. But the things they can't change are precisely the reason why most women don't find them attractive. It sucks, but that's the way it goes.
I'll be honest, there are MANY "ugly", "short", "undesirable race" men that are able to have relationships with women. The common factors are personality and lack of social skills.
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Old 09-06-2014, 06:45 PM
 
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There IS no specific formula that works on all women, however, a specific subset of men do poorly with ALL women.

The PUA material is essentially a magic pill that's being sold, and it's somewhat easy to sell to the demographic of desperate men.

Sure, meeting women is easy for normal men, but for loners?

That's a war they are fighting.
I think "normal" is a poor choice of words. There are plenty of "normal" men that do not do well with women.
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Old 09-06-2014, 07:01 PM
 
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I think "normal" is a poor choice of words. There are plenty of "normal" men that do not do well with women.
The majority of the population does well enough.

Those outside the norm, the loners who have trouble getting a date, they are outnumbered.

That's not to say that the men that don't do well with women aren't decent people, it's just that they are out numbered, surrounded by people who do at least okay.
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Old 09-06-2014, 07:02 PM
 
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I'll be honest, there are MANY "ugly", "short", "undesirable race" men that are able to have relationships with women. The common factors are personality and lack of social skills.
I agree. That's why I said MOST women find them unattractive. Sure, they may get girls, but these occasions will be few and far between. And they'll have to put in a ton of effort even to get these select few women.
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Old 09-06-2014, 07:04 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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This whole one race is better than the next for dating is BS... I mean it really is BS.......
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Old 09-06-2014, 07:05 PM
 
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This whole one race is better than the next for dating is BS... I mean it really is BS.......
I agree with you. But women generally don't. Just ask Asian guys living in the US.
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