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Online dating and facebook have created an artificial scenario in which women get far more attention than they deserve. It increases their self perceived value in the sexual marketplace.
Online dating and facebook have created an artificial scenario in which women get far more attention than they deserve. It increases their self perceived value in the sexual marketplace.
Always funny to see the bitter, clueless guys who only see things from their distorted view of how much better women have it and fail to realize that the same things that make things better for women also make it better for the guys.
Makes me wonder, did the cluelessness cause the lack of success or did the bitterness cause it. Probably both.
Men paying "too much" attention to women is pretty much caused by men paying too much attention to women. "Men" is the subject of this sentence, "paying" the predicate, so men are doing the action.
I'm not just being a grammarian. Men do try too hard and too indiscriminately, which leads to low quality efforts which don't really make women feel all that special (c'mon guys) and still mess things up for men who are being somewhat focused. Everybody loses.
OLD is an extreme version of the dating world or like the bar scene. 20% of men get 80% of the women and the women can't get the commitment they want from them and complain that they're being used because those men have so many options. Most men are invisible on there and get nowhere.
It works best for women who want attention and easy access to dates and the top men who don't need to use OLD anyway.
OLD is an extreme version of the dating world or like the bar scene. 20% of men get 80% of the women and the women can't get the commitment they want from them and complain that they're being used because those men have so many options. Most men are invisible on there and get nowhere.
I am genuinely curious where this 20%/80% claim comes from, as I keep reading it on CD. Is there a study?
Whenever I read about this "20% of men get 80% of women" thing, I have to think of a study conducted by OKCupid, on attractiveness and message patterns.
It found that women rate 80% of men below average on attractiveness. However, women still message with below average-looking guys anyway.
Men seem to be a more generous when it comes to rating women's attractiveness - it follows more of a bell curve. However, when it comes to actual messaging, 2/3 of male messages are going to the top 1/3 of women. Your Looks and Your Inbox « OkTrends
I am genuinely curious where this 20%/80% claim comes from, as I keep reading it on CD. Is there a study?
Whenever I read about this "20% of men get 80% of women" thing, I have to think of a study conducted by OKCupid, on attractiveness and message patterns.
It found that women rate 80% of men below average on attractiveness. However, women still message with below average-looking guys anyway.
Men seem to be a more generous when it comes to rating women's attractiveness - it follows more of a bell curve. However, when it comes to actual messaging, 2/3 of male messages are going to the top 1/3 of women. Your Looks and Your Inbox « OkTrends
Yep, the whole "hypergamy" thing is clearly projection. Men are far more "hypergamous" than women are. That's why it bothers some men so much that the "top 20%" of men are getting the corresponding top 20% (in looks) of women - because those are the only women they are paying any attention to.
There's that, but even more significantly for my female friends are the guys with absolutely poor dating etiquette. There seem to be a lot of guys who are just very bad at dating. And some of them are straight up weirdos. One guy who my friend dated came over with painted toe nails, and then proceeded to criticize HER about having a viewpoint about pre-defined gender roles even though she really didn't say anything good or bad about them. This was on a 2nd date. Who the hell does this stuff? Another guy just wanted to sit around and talk about sex with her. He also would bite her profusely and somewhat roughly during make out sessions. Another guy who dated my other friend went off on a political rant and then got upset with her and wanted her to pay him back for the date.
It seems to me that women tend to get bombarded by a bunch of weirdos and old fat guys, whereas men probably get more of the "Mama Junes" as you put it. I can at least say that I've never dated anyone as obnoxious as the men above.
Not saying it's always the case by any means, but a lot of men are brought up by single mothers now and it doesn't prepare them for women and dating. They lack a strong father figure who can advise them properly.
Mothers advise daughters what to do, fathers advise sons what to do. Without the strong father figure guys are clueless if it doesn't come naturally.
Yep, the whole "hypergamy" thing is clearly projection. Men are far more "hypergamous" than women are. That's why it bothers some men so much that the "top 20%" of men are getting the corresponding top 20% (in looks) of women - because those are the only women they are paying any attention to.
No the top 20% of men are getting 80% of the women. That's why STDs are more common among women, because they're sharing the same small pool of men.
Online dating and facebook have created an artificial scenario in which women get far more attention than they deserve. It increases their self perceived value in the sexual marketplace.
What if we women actually DO have value?
I know, crazy, baffling and subversive. But just humor me. What if?
I hear so much on here about how women shouldn't think we're wonderful, valuable, deserving and so on. I wonder why the possibility that we ARE those things, and not just walking boobs that deliver sex, do dishes and add a second income is simply not entertained by some individuals.
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