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Originally Posted by Auraliea
Connecting with people isn't something I do easily.
I always have a hard time understanding that coming from an attractive person. When I was at the therapy experiment at Stanford, this very attractive woman in her 20s who worked at a tech company (made a lot of money) said she had difficulty as well. Apparently she had a long relationship with a woman but prefers men. I guess biphobia was giving her a lot of problems.
But it's like, look at me, look at you. People can see why I haven't ever had a girlfriend. But you?
I always have a hard time understanding that coming from an attractive person. When I was at the therapy experiment at Stanford, this very attractive woman in her 20s who worked at a tech company (made a lot of money) said she had difficulty as well. Apparently she had a long relationship with a woman but prefers men. I guess biphobia was giving her a lot of problems.
But it's like, look at me, look at you. People can see why I haven't ever had a girlfriend. But you?
Some people endure struggles that can't be readily seen or understood by others. Without that understanding you end up stuck.
Because the Australian Bureau of Statistics publishes their information online, as it turns out, and it comes up pretty handily in a cursory search. 2013's data are currently available. I suppose it's possible that there has been a sudden, markedly dramatic decline in the past year, though. Time will tell, I suppose, if 2013's stats are now turned on their head.
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I haven't been to or even heard of a wedding since before the GFC. Obviously folk STILL do get married, but not the ones I know.
Oh, well, then. As long as you have personal anecdotes, never mind empirical data.
Because the Australian Bureau of Statistics publishes their information online, as it turns out, and it comes up pretty handily in a cursory search. 2013's data are currently available. I suppose it's possible that there has been a sudden, markedly dramatic decline in the past year, though. Time will tell, I suppose, if 2013's stats are now turned on their head.
Oh, well, then. As long as you have personal anecdotes, never mind empirical data.
No sillier than YOU relying on statistics that are by nature, out of date.
To divorce in Australia, you have to wait at least one year.
That means the figures you are quoting, 2013, actually reflect separations of 2012 and earlier.
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Originally Posted by cindersslipper
No sillier than YOU relying on statistics that are by nature, out of date.
To divorce in Australia, you have to wait at least one year.
That means the figures you are quoting, 2013, actually reflect separations of 2012 and earlier.
Starting to look a tad less clever now eh....
No, not really, if you know anything about sociology and statistics. These things are really quite stable and they change rather slowly over time. While there will likely be different numbers for next year, it is almost never that there is any significant change in those numbers. If the data shows a significant adjustment, that is going to usually be do to poor data collection or a calculation error (if it is real, it is due to a very significant social policy change).
While I can't in good conscience support outright coercion, where people are coerced into taking actions beneficial to The State, it is nevertheless unfortunate when our individual happiness collectively detracts from the common weal. For example, I'm not a huge fan of compulsory military service by conscription. But if for some reason an all-volunteer army became untenable because mass social movements marginalized military service, and good economic opportunities suddenly became available to persons who'd normally enlist for reasons of economic self-improvement, then we'd have a problem. New incentives would be necessary to entice more recruits.
However opposed I may be to reproduction, it seems to me that an overwhelmingly married society is a more stable and more governable society. I worry about the hypothetical case osf a mass aversion to marriage. Fortunately, I don't think that recent sensationalism about Millennial's aversion to marriage, or at least their skepticism of marriage, really constitutes a burgeoning trend. It's a catchy news-story, but quite possibly as Millenials age and secure better jobs, they will increase their affinity towards marriage.
As I've written before, geographical variability throughout America is shockingly intense. In my part of the country, the marriage-rate amongst college graduates remains robustly high, and if anything I bemoan that too many people marry and remain married, because that saps the dating-pool for those of us who are looking to enter a relationship. In other parts of the country, especially in the cores of our principal cities, it may very well be the case that the "young professional" set is flagging in its enthusiasm for marriage.
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Originally Posted by Djuna
I'm not a huge fan of marriage so I personally don't care if other people do or don't get married. It's an odd thing to get your knickers in a knot over. Or start a thread about for that matter.
The OP's point is probably that if marriage rates where high, the expectation would be for young people to get married. This means that women would be more receptive to advances from marriage-minded men. This makes dating from the male viewpoint easier twice-over: first, because the enticing cads are now outstripped by the stodgy company-men in gray flannel suits (who would otherwise have been shunted aside); and second, because if women are eager to find husbands, they can't afford to absent themselves from the dating-market.
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You can attribute this to the trend of millennials choosing atheism/agnosticism and more acceptance of the Childfree lifestyle for this. As a member of both communities, I see no need for marriage for myself and I have no desire for marriage.
As a member of both communities, and as a divorced man, I'm about 60/40 in favor of trying to remarry.
Anthropologists say, marriage doesn't work. We are designed for serial monogamy, ie more than one LTR over our lives
Our society no longer has the same moral/financial/religious influences either.
Don't forget the Millenials of today, who by nature are change-driven. Everything is new, now, the latest, an egocentric type of emotional wanderlust fed by social media.
They are EXTREMELY unlikely to pair for life.
Marriage will continue, but it will become less and less common.
I think what will happen is more will marry later. I know many waiting until their late 30's or even 40's. I do think having kids without marriage is a horrific trend and will have horrible repercussion in society.
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