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Is it true you girls only wear your best and sexiest panties on the nights when ya think you might be getting lucky? And then the rest of the just wear grannies or old grungy ones?
That's funny! I think it's totally true, and would snicker whenever some female told me she "never did this" and was wearing a hot panty/bra combo, waxed and ready to roll. The one's who said they "never did this before" and were wearing cotton grannies, along with the unkept "you know" were telling the truth. Never met anyone who had grungy one's, women aren't typically known to turn em inside out, and wear em another day.
... So, if I was not interested in hanky panky with a particular gentleman, there was no second date. Why waste time?
"Wasting time" is the building of mutual rapport. There might be mutual sexual attraction, but too rapid of a passage to sexual intimacy is fraught with all sorts of risk. Taking one's time is a form of risk-management.
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...I think you know in the first 5 minutes of meeting someone if you are interested or not. You might not intend to get to the hanky panky right then, but you know. You might change your mind from yes to no after you get to know them better. But I don't think you change your mind from no to yes.
The countervailing argument, frequently voiced on this Forum, is that quite often there is no initial physical attraction, but over time and continued association, such attraction eventually develops.
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Originally Posted by vigueur2014
... By the time you meet her for the first time, I think it's just a matter of being who you said you were. If you were honest with your presentation, I found that women were very willing to get intimate, the first night.
I've not personally observed this to be the case. On the contrary, I've found that while many first-dates conclude with a passionate kiss, further escalation of intimacy on successive dates is very slow. In other words, there is good evidence (at least by appearances) of mutual sexual attraction, but the passage from attraction to action, so to speak, can take months - or never happen at all.
Is it true you girls only wear your best and sexiest panties on the nights when ya think you might be getting lucky? And then the rest of the just wear grannies or old grungy ones?
For me one of the first three dates would be awesome, I'm not a hit it and quit it kinda guy unless you're a dead f--- when it comes to it, or just lame andprudish. Ultimately I will wait nonger than a month- 30 days. I believe I've given enough time and effort to have earned some poontang. I refuse to be with a person whi waits longer than that, I'd rather avoid the cobwebs, and moths flying to the light.
Usually people profess a different standard depending on if the other person is "relationship material" or "non-relationship material" and with these kinds of people it is better to present yourself as hookup material then transition into a relationship, unless you want to be the person wining and dining and waiting 10 dates for sex while they bang casuals on the regular.
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Usually people profess a different standard depending on if the other person is "relationship material" or "non-relationship material" and with these kinds of people it is better to present yourself as hookup material then transition into a relationship, unless you want to be the person wining and dining and waiting 10 dates for sex while they bang casuals on the regular.
lol but if you are the one who wants meaning then you should actually not get involved with someone once you discover they don't want that, don't you think?
lol but if you are the one who wants meaning then you should actually not get involved with someone once you discover they don't want that, don't you think?
I agree. What he is saying is he doesn't want to be the chump that wines and dines while someone while they are sleeping with their FWBs. I think this happens in some cultures more than others.
You see, guys, this thread is EXACTLY why I am not interested in dating.
Everyone in this thread seems to think that the evolution of a relationship should go like this:
complete stranger
some arbitrary number of romantic dates, no contact in between
sex
LTR followed by marriage/kids if they are interested
Here is how I think it should be:
stranger
platonic acquaintance
platonic friends for months or years
FWB
LTR followed by marriage/kids if you want that
See the problem you guys are having is that you are debating how many times you should meet someone who is a stranger before you have sex with them. I don't like that idea. I would prefer to get to know them as friends, and become close friends, and then have sex with my close friend. And if we continue to do it then we're in a long term relationship.
That way you never have this stuff about "have I gone on enough dates to have sex with this person?". You should already know them if you are spending time for romantic purposes! They shouldn't' be a stranger!I don't see how it can be meaningful if you're sleeping with someone you just met three dates ago and have no platonic history with them at all.
This is perfect...if your life is a chick flick, and you are Rachel mcadams and your dating whats his face from the notebook...ugh horrible horrible film...but it aint...
I am generally speaking,,,but if a woman is dating a man for a long time...using your time line and progression, chances are he is sleeping with someone else waiting for you to get through this timeline
I remember the wife of a friend bragging about how her man waited a year for sex, they dated a year and he waited for her...and how all us other men are pigs...and we all knew he was banging everything in site waiting for this year to be up...not justifying it, its just reality
Also to clarify...I waited a month for my wife...lmao...and we went out 1-3 times a week so count them...however...there was physical intimacy (kissing touching, hugging, necking I guess you call it if your old like me lol) immediately...the spark was there and we both knew it...
when single I dated a few girls that by the third date there was still no kiss good night, she wanted to be friends first, but go ahead and pay for another date please...phhhhhhhtttttt
That is when I instituted my new rule....if there is no kiss at the end of the 1rst date, no sign of a "spark" or whatever...IF there is a second date we are going dutch...it wasn't so much about the money, this endured she didn't waste my time on a 3rd date for a free meal or concert or whatever unless she was in...
I also had a few long term relationships where sex happened the first date, and one the night we met, that lasted 2 years and started out a one night fling...
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