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Old 06-15-2015, 12:03 AM
 
Location: Polynesia
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Are you his doctor or something? One or two nights of having one too many does not make an alcoholic. I can go for months without a drop, but please believe I have a night once in a while where I will go all out but the next two or three weeks after I wont have a drop. My dead daddy was an alcoholic, couldn't go a few hours without a beer.
It takes a lot more than "one too many" to get black out drunk. He isn't a freshman in school, this is a grown man who knows better. He admits to having a problem. He has warned this girl about his problem and never wanted her to see him like that, yet he couldn't control himself and he let it happen. He has made vows and broken those vows more than once.

Alcoholics don't always drink every day. Some alcoholics are binge drinkers.

I never said he was a bad person. He sounds like a good person with a problem.
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Old 06-15-2015, 12:20 AM
 
Location: Viña del Mar, Chile
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It takes a lot more than "one too many" to get black out drunk. He isn't a freshman in school, this is a grown man who knows better. He admits to having a problem. He has warned this girl about his problem and never wanted her to see him like that, yet he couldn't control himself and he let it happen. He has made vows and broken those vows more than once.

Alcoholics don't always drink every day. Some alcoholics are binge drinkers.

I never said he was a bad person. He sounds like a good person with a problem.


Yep, everyone who has ever gotten overly drunk is an alcoholic

No one makes mistakes when they're 23


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Old 06-15-2015, 12:24 AM
 
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Old 06-15-2015, 12:47 AM
 
Location: Polynesia
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Yep, everyone who has ever gotten overly drunk is an alcoholic. No one makes mistakes when they're 23



He admits that he has a drinking problem. Let me say that again. He admits that he has a drinking problem. He even forewarned this girl about his drinking problem.

You seem to be objecting to my use of the term "alcoholic" to describe his self-admitted drinking problem. So that begs the question: can you have a "drinking problem" without being an alcoholic? I thought alcoholic is a term used to describe an individual with a drinking problem. Please educate me if I am wrong about that.

Eyerolling is so childish and passive-agressive. I expected better from you.
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Old 06-15-2015, 02:20 AM
 
Location: Huntersville/Charlotte, NC and Washington, DC
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It takes a lot more than "one too many" to get black out drunk. He isn't a freshman in school, this is a grown man who knows better. He admits to having a problem. He has warned this girl about his problem and never wanted her to see him like that, yet he couldn't control himself and he let it happen. He has made vows and broken those vows more than once.

Alcoholics don't always drink every day. Some alcoholics are binge drinkers.

I never said he was a bad person. He sounds like a good person with a problem.
Not all binge drinkers are alcoholics. It is all about dependency. He had two years of not having an issue with this before this episode. I don't buy he is necessarily an alcoholic over a few instances of binge drinking anymore than smoking 10 cigarettes over the course of three years makes someone a smoker.
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Old 06-15-2015, 02:22 AM
 
Location: Huntersville/Charlotte, NC and Washington, DC
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He admits that he has a drinking problem. Let me say that again. He admits that he has a drinking problem. He even forewarned this girl about his drinking problem.

You seem to be objecting to my use of the term "alcoholic" to describe his self-admitted drinking problem. So that begs the question: can you have a "drinking problem" without being an alcoholic? I thought alcoholic is a term used to describe an individual with a drinking problem. Please educate me if I am wrong about that.

Eyerolling is so childish and passive-agressive. I expected better from you.
Well without knowing someone you are attempting to diagnose someone with a medical issue so I say the eye roll is warranted.
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Old 06-15-2015, 04:06 AM
 
Location: Polynesia
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The OP didn't post here asking for a diagnosis and I didn't give him one. He wanted to know if he blew it with his dream girl, due to his drinking problem.

I replied that a smart woman won't get involved with an alcoholic. The OP can decide for himself if he meets the criteria or not.

But if it makes you feel better, I'll amend my statement to say that a smart woman won't get involved with someone who has a drinking problem.
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Old 06-15-2015, 04:45 AM
 
Location: Huntersville/Charlotte, NC and Washington, DC
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The OP didn't post here asking for a diagnosis and I didn't give him one. He wanted to know if he blew it with his dream girl, due to his drinking problem.

I replied that a smart woman won't get involved with an alcoholic. The OP can decide for himself if he meets the criteria or not.

But if it makes you feel better, I'll amend my statement to say that a smart woman won't get involved with someone who has a drinking problem.
No, you calłed him an alcoholic, essentially you diagnosed him with alcoholism when you said that. Don't bother amending your statement, you are aware how back-handed that sounds, right?
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Old 06-15-2015, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Polynesia
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The OP admits to having a problem with alcohol and I believe him.
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Old 06-15-2015, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Denver and Boston
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The OP admits to having a problem with alcohol and I believe him.
Yes, he clearly states that he a problem with alcohol, and it is reasonable to believe him. But I am not a reasonable person . Maybe I am reading between the lines too much, but I think he is grasping on to the "alcohol is my problem" straw because it gives him a soltion to his problem. In his mind he can now regain the 'love of his life' by just quiting drinking. But the reality is probably much more complicated than that, and may have little to do with his occasional binge drinking.
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