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Unread 02-05-2008, 12:42 AM
 
Location: POW
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Lindsey, I'm so sorry. And I am so hoping that you don't have a son.

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How can you say relationships between men and women work most of the time when the divorce rate is over 50% now? I heard 57% the other day on TV but don't have a source to prove that.
We keep trying, and that attests to the beauty of our spirit. What would you have us do, my dear, keep to separate countries? God, I can't even stand to attend those dreadful "women only drumming and wine tasting sessions" 'cause I want to be around some men in party hours

It seems that to you, women are pure and noble and men are evil things.

I live with 40 of the best men in the world and never at any time have I felt debased or devalued by any one of them. And yes, I do enjoy it when one of them gives me a compliment and I've caught a few of 'em sneaking a look here and there. And now and then...I look back

I also raised a prince.

The first time he went to Amsterdam, I asked him, as most mothers might do, if he visited any hookers there. He was only 19 and like a mom I was thinking of his health.

He informed me that even though prostitution is legal there, most of the women engaged in it are really there against their will, and that he would not contribute to that.

It's quite a shame about the infidelity that seems so rampant in our culture and I really don't know what the answer is there. I personally wouldn't toss a guy because of a little porn though.
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Unread 02-05-2008, 05:13 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
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Lindsey, I'm so sorry. And I am so hoping that you don't have a son.



We keep trying, and that attests to the beauty of our spirit. What would you have us do, my dear, keep to separate countries? God, I can't even stand to attend those dreadful "women only drumming and wine tasting sessions" 'cause I want to be around some men in party hours

It seems that to you, women are pure and noble and men are evil things.

I live with 40 of the best men in the world and never at any time have I felt debased or devalued by any one of them. And yes, I do enjoy it when one of them gives me a compliment and I've caught a few of 'em sneaking a look here and there. And now and then...I look back

I also raised a prince.

The first time he went to Amsterdam, I asked him, as most mothers might do, if he visited any hookers there. He was only 19 and like a mom I was thinking of his health.

He informed me that even though prostitution is legal there, most of the women engaged in it are really there against their will, and that he would not contribute to that.

It's quite a shame about the infidelity that seems so rampant in our culture and I really don't know what the answer is there. I personally wouldn't toss a guy because of a little porn though.
No, I have a daughter.

I also should say that I used to work in mental health and I heard alot of stories. I saw alot of men that looked like the guy next door who were some of the sickest people I thought I had met until the next one walked in. Of course the wife had no idea.

As far as porn goes, I would not even consider an involvement with someone who indulges in porn. I have seen how bad it can get and anyone who finds that fulfilling is speaking a different language then I am when it comes to sexual intimacy.
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Unread 02-05-2008, 06:41 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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How can you say relationships between men and women work most of the time when the divorce rate is over 50% now? I heard 57% the other day on TV but don't have a source to prove that.

Do you know how many marriages end because the male is wrapped up in infedility or porn?? Are you aware that while women cheat they do it to get general attention but give up the sex to get it while men are just looking for just SEX??

I do find the way men are wired disgusting. I can't respond to someone who looks at me as just another chance to have sex or a man who has spread it around so much he can't count the number of women he has been with.
I agree 100% with Metlakatla. You are very bitter towards men, perhaps because of your past experiences. But you are unfairly projecting that on the entire male population.

While it is true that more men are visually stimulated more so than most women, it is absolutely untrue to say that all men cannot control certain aspects of their sexuality. You cite to porn addicts, infidelity etc. I don't why you project that on all men. Men, and their sexuality, are not inherently disgusting. Somewhat different, but not disgusting.

Moreover, women have been suppressed for centuries, and with more freedom these days, lots of women are also starting to do some pretty weird things. Look at those female teachers/pedophiles who start sleeping with their underage students.

No, you may hate men, but most of us women don't. Having read your intelligent posts on so many other topics, e.g. religion, I find it disheartening that you hold such an illiberal attitude towards this.
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Unread 02-05-2008, 12:53 PM
 
Location: POW
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I also should say that I used to work in mental health and I heard alot of stories. I saw alot of men that looked like the guy next door who were some of the sickest people I thought I had met until the next one walked in. Of course the wife had no idea.
And that's quite a shame as well but it seems to me that working in the mental health field of course you would come across sick people.

And again, let me apologize in advance, because this next statement is not meant to put you down in any way. I'm sure you're hotter than Satan's pitchfork but dear, I don't buy that 99.9% of the males that you meet are salivating over your ta tas. I think that's you projecting again.
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Unread 02-05-2008, 01:03 PM
 
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As far as porn goes, I would not even consider an involvement with someone who indulges in porn. I have seen how bad it can get and anyone who finds that fulfilling is speaking a different language then I am when it comes to sexual intimacy.
Again, it seems like you're looking at the worst cases and projecting it on everyone with a penis.

It's your prerogative to feel what you feel in terms of this, but I can tell you, without hesitation, that your "man vs woman" dichotomy doesn't fit in quite a lot of situations I know.

Men who watch porn may not be speaking YOUR language, but those who indulge in moderation and are otherwise attractive to me, CERTAINLY speak mine. It is what it is, in terms of my likes and dislikes, but I would hardly turn my own experiences into some sort of "men are... vs women are..." theory.

As far as why men and women "cheat". Again, you're painting with strokes that are WAY too broad.
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Unread 02-05-2008, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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I know in my case, DH and I have been together 18 years, that porn can jump-start a flagging sex life, if its used in the right way.
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Unread 02-05-2008, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Anchorage, Ak
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Alot of female will say a male thinks with his middle head not his brains.
I've noticed a lot more women think with their p**** than are willing to admit it

All this women are sugar and spice BS is just that, BS. Women are shallow and horny and evil and stupid just like men. We are all humans here.
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Unread 02-05-2008, 01:17 PM
 
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Women are shallow and horny and evil and stupid just like men. We are all humans here.
Amen to that.
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Unread 02-05-2008, 02:25 PM
 
Location: austin Texas
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While it is true that more men are visually stimulated more so than most women

This myth has already been debunked in a few scientific studies. I think we are just not given as much eye-candy to look at as men. Watch tv one night and try to find an attractive man on a show....then flip through the channels and see how many attractive women they are.
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Unread 02-05-2008, 02:44 PM
 
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Default Disgusting Turn Off

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You don't get it, yes some women dress to impress men but studies show that women also dress for themselves and to impress other women.

Unlike men minds, not everything is about sex for us. NOT everything is about what men want and think.
WHAT REALLY DIGUSTS MEN IS THE FAT OBESE FLABBY WOMEN THAT THINK THEY LOOK GOOD SHOWING OFF THEIR BEASTLY-NESS.
THESE ARE THE SAME ONES THAT WEAR HIP HUGGERS,LOW CUT TOPS AND SHOP AT VICTORIAS SECRET....... YEECHHH
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