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Old 11-09-2015, 12:00 AM
 
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Many people would like to shame men for their partaking of (or desire to partake of) escort services. They may try to say such things as the guy is "too lame" to get a woman for free or that he is simply using women for sex but... if many men are honest with themselves, the modern dating game (at least in "Western" society) is simply not good for a lot of men.

Despite how decent looking or kind-hearted some guys might be, they simply aren't attractive to the women who look for all kind of stupid attributes that certain guys may not have.

So instead of those men going through hell and high water trying to be something they aren't just to attract the myriad of superficial women who dwell in society, why wouldn't they find it more appealing to just deal with escorts and be done with it?

 
Old 11-09-2015, 12:03 AM
 
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If men would not announce they use escorts no one would know and attempt to shame them.
When one turns on the neon flashing sign that gets attention one should not be surprised when the attention happens.
 
Old 11-09-2015, 12:10 AM
 
Location: H-town, TX.
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Not my thing, but if a guy goes that route, why should be care what others think?
 
Old 11-09-2015, 12:14 AM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Men who feel ashamed, are allowing themselves to feel ashamed.

There will always be a demand for escorts/hookers; its not called it the oldest profession for nothing.
 
Old 11-09-2015, 12:31 AM
 
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CSD610, I suppose a man could just take it to the grave, but if someone asks about his sexual history and he doesn't like to lie... why should he have to? I guess a better question is, why should people be shamed about it in the first place. I mean, if women have extremely high demands and expectations and perhaps a majority of men don't meet them... why wouldn't people understand that "a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do"?

AlfredB1979, true, he shouldn't, but I just think it's a hot mess for society to say that a guy is "lame" just because he doesn't meet the ridiculous standards of Westernized women.

hawaiiancoconut, yeah, some women (well, people in general) may try to shame a man for partaking of such services but then again, the women more than likely be selling if people weren't buying.
 
Old 11-09-2015, 04:28 AM
 
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If men would not announce they use escorts no one would know and attempt to shame them.
When one turns on the neon flashing sign that gets attention one should not be surprised when the attention happens.
They usually don't for the reasons stated. You are not answering the OP's question.
 
Old 11-09-2015, 04:48 AM
 
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CSD610, I suppose a man could just take it to the grave, but if someone asks about his sexual history and he doesn't like to lie... why should he have to? I guess a better question is, why should people be shamed about it in the first place. I mean, if women have extremely high demands and expectations and perhaps a majority of men don't meet them... why wouldn't people understand that "a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do"?

AlfredB1979, true, he shouldn't, but I just think it's a hot mess for society to say that a guy is "lame" just because he doesn't meet the ridiculous standards of Westernized women.

hawaiiancoconut, yeah, some women (well, people in general) may try to shame a man for partaking of such services but then again, the women more than likely be selling if people weren't buying.
To try and answer your question.

One, there is a strong religious sanction against the practice.
Two, society and the government view it as a threat against the family unit.
Three, As you mentioned, "real men" get all the sex they need for free.
Four, there is a strong perception that vice in general means anti-social behavior and that it breeds further crime and underworld involvement.
Five, the spread of STDs.
Six and finally, women in general feel threatened and insecure by the concept of sex for money. Men, not so much. It is just a gender disagreement.

Now there are countervailing arguments FOR prostitution as well, but that is for another thread.

So keep your liaisons confidential and don't feel ashamed.
 
Old 11-09-2015, 05:36 AM
 
Location: NNJ
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You would need enough support for it to first be legalized and then move towards being widely accepted or tolerated. We have such strong views on sexuality that to even support the legalization of prostitution usually spells political suicide or at the very least public shaming. Even if one does not visit prostitutes the simple mention of support of it brings on ridicule, shaming, and assuption that you lie about it.

In real life I keep my mouth shut whenever such topics come up..... I had one instance when I was honest about my views and it was held against me later.... i so reget it. Keep it to yourself... regardless of whether you visit prostitutes or not.
 
Old 11-09-2015, 05:52 AM
 
Location: So Cal
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In many parts of the world visiting working girls ins't a problem, its actually embraced, or at least not demonized..

I can't help but to feel a bit confused...... be feel a little bit stigmatized... not for the typical reasons, but for ego reasons, my ego can't help but to feel little a little sad.... it's sad to me, sad that I had to pay a woman, a woman couldn't be with me unless I paid for her time, how lame am I if I can't get a woman to simply hang out with me... I have to pay her, she doesn't want anyting to do with me unless I hand over some cash

How lame is that, I mean when you lay it out and really think about it... a woman wouldn't be with me unless I paid her money........ she wouldn't be wilth me unless I paid her money.....

Think about that when you're pounding your chest about how macho you are.... she wouldn't be there unless you paid her.....

Let that resonate with our local chest thumpers a bit.....
 
Old 11-09-2015, 06:12 AM
 
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IMO getting invloved with an escort is a cage hunt. If you need to use the services of an escort it means you have no game/courting skills.

I want to taste all parts of the bird and that's something you can't do with an escort.
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