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Old 12-17-2015, 04:32 PM
 
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Oh no!!!


And how does that impact you personally?

What if you have all girls?!!!!

What will happen to the world?

How arrogant do you have to be to think that if your "breed line" and "name" are not continued that anyone should care?

What if a guy adopts his wife's children and they take his name?
Case in point there's no benefit for a man to take a backseat in someone else's family when he should be leading his own. IMO




So dating a woman that is divorced with children can be fun for a while, but I don't think there is long-term potential if the intention is family.


That's fine if you disagree.
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Old 12-17-2015, 04:33 PM
 
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WTH?!?!?!

What a bunch of crap! Somehow my husband and I aren't winners because we adopted children. Wow, this is caveman thinking.
No not adopting children..


A man being adopted into an already existing family.


Two different concepts entirely.
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Old 12-17-2015, 04:34 PM
 
Location: a primitive state
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Well, once you're hooked, a person might as well try and see how dating a person with children goes. Personally, despite liking kids, I have no taste for domestic drama. Your SO will always prioritize their children before you.

If you want to be spontaneous or travel, forget it. Somebody's gonna get sick or need to trade custody weekends. You'll have to be a diplomat forever. No privacy, no adult fun, no rowdy friends over if you live together and the kids show up. The mom's always gonna have her ear out for them.

For women dating a single/divorced dad, there's always the bat**** ex.
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Old 12-17-2015, 04:37 PM
 
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No not adopting children..


A man being adopted into an already existing family.


Two different concepts entirely.
No it isn't. Dna is dna. Your whole point. Passing on your genes to a future generation makes you a "winner". If you weren't so backwards I'd be mad and offended. But I feel sorry for you.
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Old 12-17-2015, 04:39 PM
 
Location: Middle America
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From evolutionary perspective, winners are only those who get to pass on their genes. Losers are only those who don't. Its a pretty big deal.

Eh. The OP states from the thread title on that he is childfree.

Spreading his seed, it would seem, is not the priority it is for some.


And some of the people to whom it does seem a priority...well, the less said about that, the better.
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Old 12-17-2015, 04:40 PM
 
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No it isn't. Dna is dna. Your whole point. Passing on your genes to a future generation makes you a "winner". If you weren't so backwards I'd be mad and offended. But I feel sorry for you.
Ok.


I couldn't care less what you feel for me.
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Old 12-17-2015, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Middle America
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Well, once you're hooked, a person might as well try and see how dating a person with children goes. Personally, despite liking kids, I have no taste for domestic drama. Your SO will always prioritize their children before you.

If you want to be spontaneous or travel, forget it. Somebody's gonna get sick or need to trade custody weekends. You'll have to be a diplomat forever. No privacy, no adult fun, no rowdy friends over if you live together and the kids show up. The mom's always gonna have her ear out for them.

For women dating a single/divorced dad, there's always the bat**** ex.
Drama isn't the result of being a parent. Prioritizing kids isn't drama, it's parenting.

Being spontaneous? Yep, it takes a hit when you are caring for small people who are not yet independent. Planning becomes essential. Not everyone has a problem with having to plan things, though, and some are of a temperament where that's how they do it, anyway. No idea if the OP prioritizes spontaneity or not, but, yeah, when somebody's got kids, you have to give them a head's up to plan unless you wanna take the kids along on your spontaneous excursion, too, and even then, there's planning involved. Valid.

Travel? You can travel. My parents traveled all over. We also traveled as a family. My husband, kid, and I travel now. We're gearing up for a big ol' train trip within the next week, in fact. Again, it takes planning. But so does travel, in general.

Getting sick? Life. Not "domestic drama."

Trading custody weekends? Again, life. Changes of plans and wrinkles due to other people happen all the time. They'll happen whether you date somebody with children or not.

Diplomacy? Not a bad skill to have.

No privacy/adult fun? Gotta say, I've found neither to be the case. We choose not to let that be an issue.

Rowdy friends? Dunno. I guess it would depend on one's definition of "rowdy." If it means "engaging in illegal activity," or something, yeah, you probably don't want that around kids. I don't know, can't really speak to the "Kids cramp your style as far as entertaining your rowdy friends is concerned" camp, because I don't really have any especially rowdy friends who come over anyway.

Why wouldn't a mother have hear ear out for her kids?

And there's always the "bat**** ex"...except in those cases where the ex is not remotely bat****, but merely an ex.
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Old 12-17-2015, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Des Moines, IA
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It's hard to talk about advice for something like this. It all comes down to how you feel about it. Personally a woman with kids is an instant deal breaker for me. The reason being I simply can't be happy raising another man's children and I'll feel like a ****. By the sound of it, the relationship is going well so far and you haven't run away at the news that she has kids. So go and meet them and see how you feel after. Don't expect to be a father to them anytime in the near future, but if you feel you can get comfortable in the relationship with the kids around, then I don't see any reason why you shouldn't just keep going with it.
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Old 12-17-2015, 05:30 PM
 
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So funny, I never felt bad for helping raise another woman's children. I felt good for helping raise my husband's children. It never occurred to me to feel anything but part of a modern family.

At 9 and 13, he isn't going to be raising too much. He is going to be an important adult to them, but not their father.

He isn't giving away his chance to be a father....he didn't plan on being one.

And being that his gf and ex have 50/50 custody...plus they go to school and in a few years should be off to college, it's not like he is throwing away spontaneity, travel, intimacy, etc. they should be able to squeeze plenty of all that in.
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Old 12-17-2015, 05:35 PM
 
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Ok to date but do not attempt a serious relationship until the kids grow up and move out of the house. You need a panel of live in expert counselors, psychologists, etc and even then most likely the relationship will not survive the stress and issues with the kids.
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