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I used to be a member of a site for people with social anxiety, and on average the men had far less relationship experience than women. It wasn't scientific, but it was pretty strong anecdotal testimony. Many of the women struggled with the relationships they had, but they often learned things from those struggles and seemed to have a better grasp on what they might do differently next time. Awkward people in particular seem to need to mess up a few relationships before they get one right. More men than women on that site hadn't even taken a hesitant step toward getting a relationship right.
Which is all moot really, even if my observations mean something. Those men win nothing if we all agree that they have an especially unenviable path to travel. They have to find a way to move along the path or they stay exactly where they are now, regardless of how anyone else perceives them.
They will probably stay virgins or pay for sex, Or get a sex change.
never understood the logic behind why going after what you want or going for what you want is part of masculine, manly behavior
I don't get it either but it's the social norm. If you don't approach women be prepared to die alone. I am also no longer receptive to women who try to approach me.
never understood the logic behind why going after what you want or going for what you want is part of masculine, manly behavior
Most people do what works for them. I don't think going after what you want is masculine per se, but I also don't think that being the aggressor is the only way to "go after" what you want.
There's more than one way to catch a fish: You can throw a net or spear. You can bait them, or set a trap. You can troll or you can entice them with a shiny, flirty fly that dances on the end of your line. The method you choose will depend a lot on what type of fish you want to catch.
If you just want to relax on the shore and have fish jump into your basket, you will need to have a very special basket.
And people will say its never too late for a guy to get a girlfriend, seriously, phrases such as "its never too late, better late than never or you have plenty of time" often fill me with bitterness, resentment and rage, anger, because I feel jealous, envious towards teen and early 20's couples when I see them, reminds me what I missed out on
And people will say its never too late for a guy to get a girlfriend, seriously, phrases such as "its never too late, better late than never or you have plenty of time" often fill me with bitterness, resentment and rage, anger, because I feel jealous, envious towards teen and early 20's couples when I see them, reminds me what I missed out on
Do you even want a real relationship with a woman? Do you know how to relate to a woman as a human being, or are you more invested in being a lonely put-upon victim of circumstance?
Do you even want a real relationship with a woman? Do you know how to relate to a woman as a human being, or are you more invested in being a lonely put-upon victim of circumstance?
Yes I do want a real relationship, never was training in my formative years for how to relate to a woman as a human being
I don't get it either but it's the social norm. If you don't approach women be prepared to die alone. I am also no longer receptive to women who try to approach me.
This is a grossly hypocritical mindset (though, I suspect, also theoretical). You're obviously disenchanted with the current social norm, but you're discouraging it from changing?
Even a guy I met sadly through a mutual friend just turned 35 and he's never had a girlfriend, and people will say its never too late for him, so what if he's still alive? Why does that give him a reason as to why its never too late for him to get a girlfriend, never too late for a guy to get his first?
Even a guy I met sadly through a mutual friend just turned 35 and he's never had a girlfriend, and people will say its never too late for him, so what if he's still alive? Why does that give him a reason as to why its never too late for him to get a girlfriend, never too late for a guy to get his first?
And does he have a rich and fulfilling life outside of dating or is having a girlfriend his only reason for living?
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