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Old 03-12-2017, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Jupiter
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There are no benefits to marriage for men. If you think it means steady sex it doesn't and usually as soon as the kids come along the sex gets really sporadic and usually less and less. This seems to be a universal experience among every guy I know from 35-55. My wife tried to get me to live without sex and as soon as my kids were grown I divorced her so fast, her head is still spinning. Plus I am having the best time of my life! If you are a woman; the two keys to keeping your man happy are simple; good food and good sex. It is very simple. Also, do not constantly pester him about dumb stuff.
I myself almost got married four months ago but lost her due to kidney failure. What was explained to us by our parents was that we would have tax breaks, medicare, and financial stability aka joint incomes. There might be many more benefits other than that.
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Old 03-12-2017, 11:02 AM
 
Location: In an indoor space
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As a guy, i laugh at this. But i don't think our female members agree with you.
I wouldn't laugh too hard, that posters post content does sadly happen not meaning 100% of them but more than you might think.

FYI I'm not part of that statistic thank goodness.
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Old 03-12-2017, 11:32 AM
 
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I myself almost got married four months ago but lost her due to kidney failure. What was explained to us by our parents was that we would have tax breaks, medicare, and financial stability aka joint incomes. There might be many more benefits other than that.




What "tax breaks" did your parents explain to you?
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Old 03-12-2017, 11:33 AM
 
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My partner did not need convincing, he wanted to marry ME. And I wanted to be married to HIM. Marriage is a public statement of commitment and vows to one another. You work harder at the relationship, you are a true team. I love the companionship, love having someone to come home to. We make decisions together. One foot is NOT out the door on a whim or temper tantrum. Children deserve to feel safe and secure within a good marriage. Women are respected by society within the marriage covenant vs. just shacking up.
Except for the public statement part, you just described my relationship with my SO. Though apparently, I'm not respected by "society". I had no idea!
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Old 03-12-2017, 12:28 PM
 
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But what is the difference between a marriage with a paper and a loving and committed relationship?
A marriage is also a commuted relationship.

When you get married you make vows I front of God (if that's your thing) and family. You make a commitment to your spouse. When you are married it isn't just about two people, there becomes three entities in the relationship, each spouse AND the marriage. You have to constantly think and act upon not only what is best for you and for your spouse but what is best for the marriage. That takes love, respect and sacrifice to carry that commitment out every single day.

It's true that you can have a loving and committed relationship without being married and you can be married and have a terriable relationship. Everyone has to do what is best for them and their situation but again, for me, I would not give my heart and soul to someone who doesn't feel the same way as me and who is not willing to make that commitment to me.
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Old 03-12-2017, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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As a guy, i laugh at this. But i don't think our female members agree with you.
You're right we don't. Many men seem to think that sex is going to be as frequent as in the beginning of a relationship and in most cases, it just won't be. Look to yourself to see why your wife doesn't want to have sex anymore. How much of it might be your fault?


That being said I do know of a few couples that are in their 50's & 60's and still have very regular sex and one of them has been married 30+ years. They have sex almost every night. I was surprised by that.
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Old 03-12-2017, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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Some people have much more pressure from family for "traditional" values this is why I was asking.


I just saw your status about the shrugs. Hysterical.
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Old 03-12-2017, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Queens, NY
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You're right we don't. Many men seem to think that sex is going to be as frequent as in the beginning of a relationship and in most cases, it just won't be. Look to yourself to see why your wife doesn't want to have sex anymore. How much of it might be your fault?


That being said I do know of a few couples that are in their 50's & 60's and still have very regular sex and one of them has been married 30+ years. They have sex almost every night. I was surprised by that.
Agreed.

That being said, in some cases, it's not anybody's fault whatsoever. Some people just completely lose interest in sex (typically older people). And it's not just men, some women also have issues with their husbands not wanting to have sex with them anymore.
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Old 03-12-2017, 02:37 PM
 
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For men or women? In western cultures women get to control men, in eastern cultures - vice versa.
I disagree. I can't speak for eastern cultures but in western cultures marriage is a way for government and corporations to control men. Marriage tethers men to responsibilities thus rendering those men more docile and compliant in the eyes of the government. Also it makes those men more subservient to corporations as they now have families to support. That is why society pushes the concept of marriage so hard. It is about social engineering.

There are really no great benefits to the individuals involved. There are a few legal benefits bestowed by the government that can be considered as weak compensation for the sacrifices people make in becoming part of a familial unit.

The personal incentive for marriage really lies in whether a man or woman finds a partner whose companionship is worth investing in and fighting for. That being said, if a woman (a) knocked my socks off with her values and personality (b) looks good (not in a hotness sense but in the fact that she looks vibrant and healthy for her age) and (c) is old enough to be very unlikely to get pregnant; I could be persuaded to lock that down and get married despite my distaste for the social engineering inherent as part of legal marriage.
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Old 03-12-2017, 03:14 PM
 
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I almost shudder to mention this but for some of us, the issue of marriage might just be a moral one. Strange, huh?
I live my life via a personal code of ethics, I pay all my bills, keep up my property, respect my neighbors, follow the vast majority of laws and even comply with some regulations, etc. If morals are not just a synonym for ethics then please clue me in.
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