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Old 10-17-2008, 11:08 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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And young men into unstable ones.
I am sorry, I do not understand that comment.

What do you mean?

Every household has a home, a father, every child has a mother.

Many hands make the work lighter [as one polygamous Christian wife once told me]
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Old 11-05-2008, 06:24 AM
 
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Women pressure men to marry them for a couple of reasons. First, I notice that many women don't know how to develop a life of their own. They don't have hobbies or interests, or if they do, many times it's not a sincere interest. They are just waiting for some guy to come along. Second, I see that many women have a big void in themselves. They can be educated, beautiful, etc., but still feel like nothing if they don't have a man or a baby. Finally, I believe this is what keeps women miserable and/or hooking up and staying with loser type guys who don't appreciate them.
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Old 03-25-2016, 07:57 AM
 
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Recently I had a discusion with my wife about a friend telling her that she's tired of playing house with her mate of 4 years. My wife defended her friend of couse saying that if you live together, sleep together, pay bills, and etc. you should get married. Why do women feel the need for paperwork and ring. If your happy the way things are leave it. I dont buy into that saying if your not married a person can just walk out at anytime he tired of being together. Even with a certificant ones can still walk out.
Just get a dog. Same thing.
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Old 03-25-2016, 08:38 AM
 
Location: NNJ
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Dug up a post from 2008 just to say that?

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Old 03-25-2016, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Lubbock, Tx
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Women want to get married for the financial and legal advantages. Once she gets married, she is entitled to at least 1/2 of all the family assets, even if she didn't earn a penny of it. IN the case of a divorce, she may also get some of his future income and pension. She will almost certainly get the children, unless she is a terrible mother. IN a domestic fight, she can complain that he is hitting her or abusing the children, and the authorities will most likely believe her, even if there is no evidence. So the legal and financial advantages are all hers in most cases. Why men even agree to marriage, except for religious reasons, I can't understand. Some estimates are the there are 50,000 in jail for failure to pay child support, very few women.

Now I'm sure many people will disagree, but if the legal advantages where on the man's side, I'm sure women would be protesting in the streets, and women would be much more likely to be cautious about getting married.
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Old 03-25-2016, 10:43 AM
 
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Women want to get married for the financial and legal advantages. Once she gets married, she is entitled to at least 1/2 of all the family assets, even if she didn't earn a penny of it. IN the case of a divorce, she may also get some of his future income and pension. She will almost certainly get the children, unless she is a terrible mother. IN a domestic fight, she can complain that he is hitting her or abusing the children, and the authorities will most likely believe her, even if there is no evidence. So the legal and financial advantages are all hers in most cases. Why men even agree to marriage, except for religious reasons, I can't understand. Some estimates are the there are 50,000 in jail for failure to pay child support, very few women.

Now I'm sure many people will disagree, but if the legal advantages where on the man's side, I'm sure women would be protesting in the streets, and women would be much more likely to be cautious about getting married.


I agree 100% if we are talking about the US. Women here have tremendous legal advantages when filing for separation and divorce. That is probably they initiate most divorces. In case of divorce, they typically get children, child support money and in many cases alimony. And I believe most US states demand that after the divorce, wife and children have to have the same life styles as before the divorce. That just means that the men will have a much lower standard of living. In practice, this means that US law makes men pay most of what they earn and leaves them in virtual poverty struggling to pay rent for a studio apartment. Despite all the useless and insincere talk about equality US women will never give up anything from which they can benefit.


I believe that in many European countries where the divorce offers less advantages to women the marriage rate is declining. This reason might be that women don't have much to gain from divorce so they are less motivated to marry. I am sure I will not read that in the official explanation for the decline in marriage rates.
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Old 03-25-2016, 11:00 AM
 
Location: San Gabriel Valley, CA
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I didn't. Other way around for me, both times. It was the man each time who wanted marriage and who brought the subject up in advance of actually proposing.

As for legal advantages and so on in divorce, if anyone thinks most mentally healthy women are shrugging and thinking they can get married in order to divorce and hence better their situation - magically avoiding legal ugliness and accusations, horrific child custody issues, potential loss of property due to it being "divided" or one ex-spouse not being able to maintain it individually and the PROHIBITIVE expense of the divorce attorney alone, as well as generally woefully insufficient child support and, today, generally non-existent alimony, you're crazy...full stop.
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Old 03-25-2016, 11:02 AM
 
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Dug up a post from 2008 just to say that?

He's BAAAAAaaaack!
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Old 03-25-2016, 11:06 AM
 
Location: NY
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If someone needs to apply pressure or be pressured in marriage, it's red flag #1 not to marry that person. In healthy, respectful relationships, the topic of marriage comes about organically, not through manipulation.
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Old 03-25-2016, 11:07 AM
 
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Anyway, despite what the two more recent comments from men allude to, it's quite the opposite, as has been discussed ad nauseam on multiple threads on this forum in the EIGHT YEARS since the OP started this thread. For every angry or bitter guy who gets on here and talks about how women want marriage to game some kind of system, I can tell you about a woman who either resisted the notion of marriage or came away from a broken one with NONE of the alleged "benefits" of divorce these guys seem to believe women come away with. Heaven knows I didn't, and neither have my sisters or my friends.

But hey, let's necro a thread to give misogynists yet another outlet to spew their vitriol!
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