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Maybe. But I think the attitude causes the problem, in a lot of cases, not the other way around.
Some guys come here and convey their problems, and receive genuine responses of a positive nature, because their good attitude.
Attitude is perception. And what you consider a bad attitude some people may just see as telling it like it is. And that's my point. The threshold that you and many have here on CD for a "positive" attitude directly correlates to how closely they walk the current climate's PC line.
Hasn't it always been the case sex and relationships have always been more important to men? Man gets neglected by the opposite sex he either hides in his shell and gives up, becomes bitter at the world and lashes out online, or in extreme cases resorts to violence?
IMO women who get ignored just simply turn to other hobbies. The need to have sex or be in a relationship just isn't there. They can adapt easier than men. Maybe it's also has to do with ego. No women here who can't get dates like to advertise it on a regular basis like some male posters.
A man named George Sodini came to my mind because of your post. He killed a lot of women in a gym in Pennsylvania back in 2009 I believe. You speak some truth.
Hasn't it always been the case sex and relationships have always been more important to men? Man gets neglected by the opposite sex he either hides in his shell and gives up, becomes bitter at the world and lashes out online, or in extreme cases resorts to violence?
IMO women who get ignored just simply turn to other hobbies. The need to have sex or be in a relationship just isn't there. They can adapt easier than men. Maybe it's also has to do with ego. No women here who can't get dates like to advertise it on a regular basis like some male posters.
This. Women deal with it better; they fill their lives with hobbies and friends. This isn't to say that they don't long for a relationship, but their biology doesn't push them in that direction on a daily or weekly basis, like men's does, generally speaking (if we can allow generalizations )
I honestly don't get why some men whine about this type of stuff. There are worse things going on in this world over someone not being attracted to you. It's really not that big of a deal at least to me it isn't.
Lol. Millennial women are just as bad as millennial men in the entitlement department. Show up and you deserve respect and status just for existing. Bleh.
I didn't say they didn't have entitlement attitudes. The question was-- Why are there more young men here acting whiny and bitter than women. My opinion was that they feel entitled, they want to do the same things their fathers and grandfathers did to get the same outcome Maybe. They may think they will do things, traditional Man things, to get a woman. They dont understand why they have a job, try to keep in shape to be the provider --and don't have a woman.
Where as a woman is no longer groomed to learn how to cook, clean, take Home Ec classes, learn how to make popovers, be pretty, and a man will find you. Things have changed dramatically for young women, and yet what has changed for young men? The ones who complain are still using the same tools to obtain a wife and mother for their children, and the young woman doesn't know if she wants either. Ever. They don't feel entitled to a man, because they don't necessarily need one to support them, they don't have their self worth tied up in whether or not they have one.
That was my opinion if you don't agree with that, then you don't agree with that. I'm not crisizing anyone.
I didn't say they didn't have entitlement attitudes. The question was-- Why are there more young men here acting whiny and bitter than women. My opinion was that they feel entitled, they want to do the same things their fathers and grandfathers did to get the same outcome Maybe. They may think they will do things, traditional Man things, to get a woman. They dont understand why they have a job, try to keep in shape to be the provider --and don't have a woman.
Where as a woman is no longer groomed to learn how to cook, clean, take Home Ec classes, learn how to make popovers, be pretty, and a man will find you. Things have changed dramatically for young women, and yet what has changed for young men? The ones who complain are still using the same tools to obtain a wife and mother for their children, and the young woman doesn't know if she wants either. Ever. They don't feel entitled to a man, because they don't necessarily need one to support them, they don't have their self worth tied up in whether or not they have one.
That was my opinion if you don't agree with that, then you don't agree with that. I'm not crisizing anyone.
I agree that some men are baffled that having their ish together doesn't equate to a beautiful woman. Then when they realize they have to also be dancing entertainment clowns to hold some of today's millennial women's attention, frustration can really set in.
However, if you think millennial women aren't entitled in their belief in what type of man they deserve simply because they don't need a man, you're conflating two separate topics. If anything, the freedom afforded to women by no longer needing men for support has increased the level of entitlement and expectations in millennial women.
Attitude is perception. And what you consider a bad attitude some people may just see as telling it like it is. And that's my point. The threshold that you and many have here on CD for a "positive" attitude directly correlates to how closely they walk the current climate's PC line.
Well, then consider how that attitude is working in real life too.
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I agree that some men are baffled that having their ish together doesn't equate to a beautiful woman. Then when they realize they have to also be dancing entertainment clowns to hold some of today's millennial women's attention, frustration can really set in.
However, if you think millennial women aren't entitled in their belief in what type of man they deserve simply because they don't need a man, you're conflating two separate topics. If anything, the freedom afforded to women by no longer needing men for support has increased the level of entitlement and expectations in millennial women.
Being self supporting has increased a woman's options, so now a man is not a necessity for survival. It's always been that way for men.
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I agree that some men are baffled that having their ish together doesn't equate to a beautiful woman. Then when they realize they have to also be dancing entertainment clowns to hold some of today's millennial women's attention, frustration can really set in.
However, if you think millennial women aren't entitled in their belief in what type of man they deserve simply because they don't need a man, you're conflating two separate topics. If anything, the freedom afforded to women by no longer needing men for support has increased the level of entitlement and expectations in millennial women.
Why is this about millennial women? Independent, working women has been a widespread phenomenon in American society since roughly the 1970's or 80's. Men since that time have been evaluated for their character and personality (though IMO they always were, but maybe the emphasis back before then was on earning power). That covers the Boomers and Gen X, as well as the Millennials. Are you implying that men would prefer to be viewed as walking bank accounts, rather than more holistically, as (hopefully) fairly well-rounded human beings? What exactly is the complaint, here?
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