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Old 07-07-2018, 01:42 PM
 
Location: The High Seas
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You might try a sex therapist.


 
Old 07-07-2018, 03:23 PM
 
Location: North Idaho
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You aren't to learn much about relating to women by spending time with women who want you to pay and get it over with quick so they can go back to work.

I suggest you join a couple of clubs and spend some time learning how to talk to women that you have no desire to bed. Learn how to get along with the older volunteer ladies and once that is comfortable for you, you should be able to talk and relate to younger women who strike your fancy. Those younger women are human beings, too, not sex toys, and they appreciate being talked to and treated like they are a human being.
 
Old 07-07-2018, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Compromise and pay a girl for her time and use that time just talking. Stay in the club lounge and buy her a drink or two. Rumor has it that working girls can be good at pillow talk. I met one at a bar and I bought her drinks. Heck, she liked me and even wanted me to be her boyfriend. This was soon after it became clear my separation was going to be permanent and I didn't know how to approach women. Oh, she surely tried to sell me sex - but I was thinking "She's had how many already? What about diseases?" Besides, she was insisting on a condom. She was assuring me she was clean since she always insisted on a condom. Sorry, I don't do condoms. And a relationship? No. Just no. But I did go back two or three times and she was usually there soliciting and she would come over to me with a big smile for a chat and have a beer with me. Of course I don't know whether she was just trying to enroll me as a client ... But at least she thought of me as being client worthy.

Thing is, she did boost my confidence. I found myself able to get out there and meet women - on dating sites. I'm not sure I can credit her - I'm sure I would have gotten there anyway - but I can now approach any woman anywhere.

P.S. In my country working girls are required to be registered and have regular health checks.
 
Old 07-07-2018, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Can frequenting working girls help improve your confidence in dating women?
Not a chance. It's purely transactional and business for these women and they're leaving as soon as they arrived. Many will even routinely stare at the clock, waiting for it to be over. It's a transaction, not companionship or a relationship.

You want to build your social interactiona and confidence with women, start by going to the local clubs and bars: the cold approach. Sure you'll be rejected a lot (most women don't talk to complete strangers, instead, relying on dating apps where they can choose their type), but hey you will build up your confidence.
 
Old 07-07-2018, 08:01 PM
 
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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It's not about solving anyone's problem - it's just about learning to talk a woman and they do attempt to seduce or entice. They are just human beings like anyone else.

The working girl that I met told me she won't go with a guy she doesn't like. Conversation had to go there.

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Old 07-07-2018, 08:12 PM
 
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It's not about solving anyone's problem - it's just about learning to talk a woman and they do attempt to seduce or entice. They are just human beings like anyone else.

The working girl that I met told me she won't go with a guy she doesn't like. Conversation had to go there.
Of course she told you that. It's part of the "deep down she loves it, because I'm hot" illusion and it has worked well for thousands of years now. Except literally in drug infested alleys, a hooker has to get chosen amid competition somehow and that "who's the big man?" tactic works like ringing a bell for a dog's dinner.

If you weren't the john she was going to get her bills paid off of then she was hoping to give off the "I'm a SUPERIOR wh*re, you won't even know you're with a hooker" illusion in case you ever had another potential john to refer to her. It's also part of trying to make herself feel less like a wh*re. "I have principles. I only lie down for guys I LIKE. I'm just like Julia Roberts!"

Car salesman tell you they really like you and that's why they'll go "talk to their manager" (usually they just stand behind the corner for three minutes) to get you a special price. Same principle. Just hinting or saying that the customer somehow stands out will make him whip out his wallet. Hookers are savvy businesspeople too. And they get savvy to human nature pretty fast, too. Sales psychology is sales psychology, no matter what you're selling.

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Old 07-07-2018, 08:17 PM
 
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Compromise and get an escort.
These ladies absolutely care about being the upscale version of the working girl.
They are required to insist all 'gifts' are at your choice. Thus saving them or you from being involved in solicitation.
I've no admiration for that working girl ...but I do understand for some men ..it mimics relationships....
 
Old 07-07-2018, 09:09 PM
 
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Of course she told you that. It's part of the "deep down she loves it, because I'm hot" illusion and it has worked well for thousands of years now. Except literally in drug infested alleys, a hooker has to get chosen amid competition somehow and that "who's the big man?" tactic works like ringing a bell for a dog's dinner.
Well, thanks for bursting my bubble.

Just kidding! Of course I knew that. That's what made it so easy for me to practice talking to a lady with her. As awkward as I was, she didn't care. And you know what else? She got me to talk about my failed marriage and other things too. Even if she was feigning sympathy. You see, I didn't have any expectations. She was trying to solicit me and I was enjoying the attention. These girls are indeed good at plying their trade and 'counselling' is one of the 'services' (or enticements) they offer.

So that's why I suggested paying for her time and only talking. Hell, she gets her money and doesn't have to do anything but talk to the guy and he doesn't have to compromise himself.

In my country there are bars where these ladies work from (legitimately). We have 'Gentlemen's Clubs' that pretty are expensive and the girls even more expensive. I work with a guy who bounces at some of these clubs from time to time.
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Old 07-08-2018, 02:59 AM
 
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For what it's worth to ya OP, paid sex is better than nothing, but not a whole lot better. I don't know how far back from the starting line you are positioned, but you have nothing to lose from a few trips around the block. Not likely to be as bad as the mess you left behind. But then, real-life relationships can turn pretty gruesome as well.



Also, take lightly the advice from the keyboard warriors on here, as I suspect that most of their knowledge comes from books and movies. Pretty Woman indeed~
 
Old 07-08-2018, 03:20 AM
 
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From years of experience, not necessarily, but it means you don't have to date if you don't want to.
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