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Chapter 1
The 2 Hour Grocery Store Stalkings Chapter 2
The At Home Smoove Jazz Dinner Chapter 3
If All Else Fails: "May I Use the Latrine" (with tender kisses)
Could we get the Edward Murrow voice-over for this bit of drama:
"We have an extreme crisis in masculinity. We have so many absent fathers. We have Baby Boomer fathers who were able to put together long lasting relationships in a time where traits that were appreciated in the 1960s and possibly early 1970s are no longer appreciated by the modern, young single woman."
Sorry, I'm having NO problem finding masculine men. They were more masculine in the 70s?! WTH...
Are there threads here asking Where did all the masculine men go?
I did not specifically name rose petals in any of my messages here.
OP was looking to get laid. What does a 29 year old man have in common with a 45 year old woman? Since there is an oversupply of single 29 year old men relative to single 23-27 year old woman and an oversupply of single 45 year old women relative to single 45-50 year old men, this would simply be a short term convenience pairing because neither could find any better option if it were to work. However, a 45 year old woman will also be hotly pursued by men around age 55+ and will likely have better options than the OP. The OP is not doing himself any favors by showing that he failed to logistically plan for a seduction that puts his best effort forward and is most likely to succeed.
Getting to know each other's bodies is part of getting to know each other. I think that introducing the sexual component into a relationship soon is good, particularly if both parties have a healthy sex drive. Most of us have relationships with the opposite sex so that we can have sex. Why not do what we want to do most as soon as possible?
When the home dinner date invitation is extended, it is usually a 2nd or 3rd date and the 3rd or 4th in-person interaction. It's a real make or break date. I can meet someone in a non-bar venue like a grocery store, the gym, the mall, or any other non-bar venue. If I meet her at a bar, then perhaps we get drinks somewhere else another time. I prefer non-bar venue first interactions to bar first interactions. I would then ask them to meet me for drinks in a place with good ambience for a first date. We would at least have our first kiss during that date. I will casually mention my cooking skills and perhaps show a picture of something that I've cooked well. If the first date just ends with kissing and does not end up with sex, I would prefer to have a second date at my apartment as a home dinner date. Sometimes there may be an intervening activity date depending upon common interests, but I prefer to get to a home dinner date sooner.
The goal of all home dinner dates is for the evening to end with sex. There has been some kissing on the first date and there's been a strong indication of interest in romance.
I really cannot help but hear Marlin Perkins' voice here narrating your post as if it were a Wild Kingdom episode.
Please please please stop treating your interactions with "females" as if they were lab experiments. Everything is not numbers and spreadsheets and formulas and statistics and probabilities.
There are real actual people attached to those body parts you seek.
A real gentleman playing the long game is going to wait a dozen dates or many months to find a genuine, lasting relationship. That's me and I'm honest.
Long game is essentially dead at this point. You can't use long game on 18-34 year olds, especially 18-29 year olds. They don't have the attention span and they have too many prospects. If you are not immensely attractive and your game isn't absolutely perfect, prepare to get dropped like a hot potato in this group. Flaking is an epidemic in the Millennial cohort. You need to have sex early with a Millennial woman in order to keep her attention. If a Millennial woman has 50-100 text messages, Tinder messages, and Bumble messages to reply to, she's going to reply to the guy who she connects with most on a primal and physical level first. If you have sex early and it is high quality sex, that's what will keep things going. Even first date kissing that doesn't result in sex is no guarantee of a second date, which is a change from 10-15 years ago where a decent makeout session gave a man decent assurance of a second date. This shortening of attention span is why men now need to push for sex on the first date or even the first meeting if it is at a bar at night.
One might think that long game could work on 40+ females, but only if they are not on online dating sites/apps. Older women on sites/apps can channel their inner Millennial if their inboxes/queues are flooded. More options lead to more flaking. It's not uncommon for a 45 year old woman to be having sex with multiple men simultaneously that she met through sites/apps, whereas a 45 year old woman who isn't using sites/apps is getting less attention and might be more receptive to long game with lesser options.
Smooth jazz is all instrument based and is easy listening. Elements of it can be erotic. The idea is to create a home environment that emphasizes elements of eroticism. It can be done through any combination of the senses. Erotic sounding music can work. Scented candles (smell, sight) with scents that are known aphrodisiacs are good. The right lighting is also part of sight and can set a good mood.
What if the woman cant stand smooth jazz and only into into rap and or country?
What if she doesn't even have a home stereo? Oh wait, that's when you bust out your laptop from your car pre-loaded with smooth jazz along with a bag of scented candles. All this transpiring from just using her bathroom?
The OP is not doing himself any favors by showing that he failed to logistically plan for a seduction that puts his best effort forward and is most likely to succeed.
A seduction isn't likely to happen when the woman in question has already made it clear that it isn't a date. IOW, don't plan on sex at the end of the night. Failing to understand that is what will possibly land the OP in cuffs of the non-sexual variety.
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I think that introducing the sexual component into a relationship soon is good, particularly if both parties have a healthy sex drive. Most of us have relationships with the opposite sex so that we can have sex. Why not do what we want to do most as soon as possible?
WTH?
You don't just charge forward like a bull during rutting season. Just because someone has a healthy sex drive doesn't mean they want to have sex with YOU. Learn to listen and read the signs. In the OP's case, the woman specifically said it wasn't a date, so any Casanova moves are going to be unwanted and unappreciated. Don't be the guy a woman has to fend off at the ending of the evening.
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The goal of all home dinner dates is for the evening to end with sex. There has been some kissing on the first date and there's been a strong indication of interest in romance.
Kissing doesn't always = let's have sex.
Hopefully, you warn your dates ahead of time so they know what to expect from you.
Long game is essentially dead at this point. You can't use long game on 18-34 year olds, especially 18-29 year olds. They don't have the attention span and they have too many prospects. If you are not immensely attractive and your game isn't absolutely perfect, prepare to get dropped like a hot potato in this group. Flaking is an epidemic in the Millennial cohort. You need to have sex early with a Millennial woman in order to keep her attention. If a Millennial woman has 50-100 text messages, Tinder messages, and Bumble messages to reply to, she's going to reply to the guy who she connects with most on a primal and physical level first. If you have sex early and it is high quality sex, that's what will keep things going. Even first date kissing that doesn't result in sex is no guarantee of a second date, which is a change from 10-15 years ago where a decent makeout session gave a man decent assurance of a second date. This shortening of attention span is why men now need to push for sex on the first date or even the first meeting if it is at a bar at night.
One might think that long game could work on 40+ females, but only if they are not on online dating sites/apps. Older women on sites/apps can channel their inner Millennial if their inboxes/queues are flooded. More options lead to more flaking. It's not uncommon for a 45 year old woman to be having sex with multiple men simultaneously that she met through sites/apps, whereas a 45 year old woman who isn't using sites/apps is getting less attention and might be more receptive to long game with lesser options.
I l am 29/M. I met a 45 year old woman online a couple years ago for a drink. She thought I was too young for her after our first date so there wasn’t a second date.
A couple weeks ago I hit her up to see how she was doing. We started talking and we were going to boating on a lake instead. It rained today so we decided on dinner tomorrow night instead.
She insists it’s not a date but she’s letting me pick her up etc.
Planning on bringing her a bottle of wine when i pick her up, invite myself in when I drop her off and try to escalate.
As far as a plan, that’s all I have lol. It’s worked in the past and hasn’t worked in the past.
Long game is essentially dead at this point. You can't use long game on 18-34 year olds, especially 18-29 year olds. They don't have the attention span and they have too many prospects. If you are not immensely attractive and your game isn't absolutely perfect, prepare to get dropped like a hot potato in this group. Flaking is an epidemic in the Millennial cohort. You need to have sex early with a Millennial woman in order to keep her attention. If a Millennial woman has 50-100 text messages, Tinder messages, and Bumble messages to reply to, she's going to reply to the guy who she connects with most on a primal and physical level first. If you have sex early and it is high quality sex, that's what will keep things going. Even first date kissing that doesn't result in sex is no guarantee of a second date, which is a change from 10-15 years ago where a decent makeout session gave a man decent assurance of a second date. This shortening of attention span is why men now need to push for sex on the first date or even the first meeting if it is at a bar at night.
One might think that long game could work on 40+ females, but only if they are not on online dating sites/apps. Older women on sites/apps can channel their inner Millennial if their inboxes/queues are flooded. More options lead to more flaking. It's not uncommon for a 45 year old woman to be having sex with multiple men simultaneously that she met through sites/apps, whereas a 45 year old woman who isn't using sites/apps is getting less attention and might be more receptive to long game with lesser options.
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