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It's a regional holiday, observed in the Midwest and western Appalachia, on the third Saturday in October.
It started in 1921, due to the lobby of confectionery companies. It originally wasn't meant to be romantic, and instead was meant to bring simple joys to orphans, elderly, and the poor. But over time, it became Valentine's Day 2.0. It's also an easy excuse for the single and the jaded to buy cheap candy the day after.
Nearly all the rest are mutual. No, you don't get a gift back when you give someone a birthday present, that is just weird. Doghouse: sure, or you've chosen to be with someone spoiled. Or if you live in 1955. Just because: NOT a requirement. It is just to be nice and I like to do this for my husband.
It's a regional holiday, observed in the Midwest and western Appalachia, on the third Saturday in October.
It started in 1921, due to the lobby of confectionery companies. It originally wasn't meant to be romantic, and instead was meant to bring simple joys to orphans, elderly, and the poor. But over time, it became Valentine's Day 2.0. It's also an easy excuse for the single and the jaded to buy cheap candy the day after.
Hmm... So, the author of at least one MGTOW blog is from the mid-West or Appalachia? You (or he) are really scraping the bottom of the barrel, to come up with items to pad your "list of outrageous relationship requirements" with, M-U. Oh well, scrape away, if that's what makes you happy. You don't sound happy, though, in spite of all the scraping.
For discussion purposes, is it wrong for women to expect men to give them flowers, take them out on special occasions (birthday, V day, etc), buy them presents? And then get their feelings hurt if it doesn't happen?
No it's not wrong for women to expect this because we're talking about special occasions and not something that the men would have to be doing everyday.If the guy can't even do 1 thing for a special occasion...then he should be dropped.I find it hard to believe that one wouldn't think it a bad thing to get someone a gift for a special occasion just showing them how much their appreciated.How hard can that be to do??Men who complain about stuff like that shouldn't be in a relationship and women should avoid them at all cost.
Some men will use any excuse to NOT do anything on any special occasion.And no...it doesn't have to be expensive either...
If a guy didn't do anything for a special occasion then I could see how the woman would feel hurt about that..
Nearly all the rest are mutual. No, you don't get a gift back when you give someone a birthday present, that is just weird. Doghouse: sure, or you've chosen to be with someone spoiled. Or if you live in 1955. Just because: NOT a requirement. It is just to be nice and I like to do this for my husband.
For discussion purposes, is it wrong for women to expect men to give them flowers, take them out on special occasions (birthday, V day, etc), buy them presents? And then get their feelings hurt if it doesn't happen?
No, it is not 'wrong'.
However if you expect gifts, and he fails to give you gifts, and you get hurt feelings over it, that is 'wrong'.
Men and women think differently. Each of us has a list of expectations going into a relationship. Before we can expect the other person to know what we expect, we must explain it to the other person.
Tell him, in plain language, what you want and when you want it. Say I expect a gift on V day every year. Then he will know that it is important to you.
Getting mad at him, when you have not explained this to him, is wrong.
For discussion purposes, is it wrong for women to expect men to give them flowers, take them out on special occasions (birthday, V day, etc), buy them presents? And then get their feelings hurt if it doesn't happen?
Every person is different. It's not a bad thing, the problem is is that most men can't read minds to know ahead of time that gift giving is one of your stronger love languages.
Nearly all the rest are mutual. No, you don't get a gift back when you give someone a birthday present, that is just weird. Doghouse: sure, or you've chosen to be with someone spoiled. Or if you live in 1955. Just because: NOT a requirement. It is just to be nice and I like to do this for my husband.
Exactly. I have never met a single person who celebrates or expects anything out of Sweetest Day. Hallmark tried to make it a thing for a while, but it didn't catch on.
I love to find gifts for my loved ones. Tracking down something I know that they'd like and maybe would never get for themselves is fun, and it's gratifying to see their faces light up. Thoughtfulness is mutual in a relationship. If someone is making selfish demands or is completely thoughtless that's usually pretty easy to spot early on, long before marriage would even be on the table.
This is the first time I've ever heard of sweetest day.
Nothing says I never think about you, I don't care whether or not you are happy, you aren't important to me, like ignoring birthdays, Christmas, anniversery.
Men receive gifts for no reason, too. Maybe not flowers, but something special cooked for dinner, his new underwear or new shirts because he refuses to shop for it himself, maybe his vacation designed and booked for him because he won't do it for himself, things brought back from shopping trips for him like a new video picked up while in town. Just because it doesn't get gift wrapped doesn't mean it is not a gift.
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I’m not real big into gifts because I’m very anti-materialism. However, when I give a creative gift that hits it out of the Park, that feels great.
One time I gave my NKY crush a gift of a donation to a local hospital in her area in her honor. I didn’t know that hospital treated her baby brother before she died so she was reduced to tears by my gift. It was the one time in my dating life I was 100% on the money and it felt good to give a gift that touched her.
When I get my diploma from grad school this week, I’m going to mail it to my mother as a gift. I can’t wait to hear her reaction as the first person in her family to have a Masters.
Not big on gifts but making my loved ones light up with my creativity is awesome. I’d never date anyone who expected gifts frequently .
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You (or he) are really scraping the bottom of the barrel, to come up with items to pad your "list of outrageous relationship requirements" with, M-U. Oh well, scrape away, if that's what makes you happy. You don't sound happy, though, in spite of all the scraping.
