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Old 09-21-2018, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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The gender of the followers doesn't matter. For a lot of cross dressers, it's not sexual in the way that people think about sex, it's more validation and feeling sexy. That can come from any source. A cross dresser isn't focused on what kind of people they are trying to attract, they just want to be made to feel a certain way, experience feeling a certain way. And it is usually VERY compartmentalized from the rest of their life, including any relationships they might have. Unless they are deep enough into some community where they feel free doing and being that.

But most of the male cross dressers I've known have been in relationships with women, who knew, accepted it, and even sometimes helped "dress up" their partner.

Anyhow, OP, this man obviously feels tremendous shame about this. That is something he'll have to work through for himself. It's good for him to know that you would be supportive and non-judgmental about it, but he clearly feels very bad inside contemplating you thinking of him this way. That is his shame-programming talking.

And indeed, some of the mostly-closeted cross dressers I've known, especially the ones who mix it with a humiliation kink, act like manly manly alpha men in the rest of their "vanilla" lives, not only would you never guess, they'd punch you in the face if you suggested such a thing. They have to externalize the shame they feel for doing something like this, and protect themselves from it. It's...complicated. The ones to do manage to lay the shame aspect to rest or express it healthily (through play, not denial or aggression) can be truly lovely people though.
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Old 09-21-2018, 08:39 AM
 
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I still would like to know what gender the followers are.
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Old 09-21-2018, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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I still would like to know what gender the followers are.
I don't think that we'll get a proper answer since the OP's fella deleted his page.

I think it depends, in your run of the mill cross dressing thing, I'd guess mostly men who are sexualizing it, but if the cross dresser is highly talented with makeup and has a hell of a cool wardrobe, let alone shares where they obtained this dress or those shoes, then you could have a lot of women following, too.

There may also be people who simply support that kind of expression.

I've got a long distance social media acquaintance who went from "he" to "they" pronouns and began dressing in a very gothy and androgynous way, not quite definitely masculine or feminine, though leaning perhaps a bit feminine. They asked their friend base to support this, and in general people have. Like friends do. They have a wife, and this doesn't seem to have impacted the relationship negatively. I know that when they post selfies or posed photos, they get a lot of positive attention. It's not people trying to look at something pornographic, it's just people being generally supportive of the identity expression.

So I imagine that some portion of the followers in OP's situation were that way.
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Old 09-21-2018, 09:14 AM
 
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I don't think that we'll get a proper answer since the OP's fella deleted his page.

I think it depends, in your run of the mill cross dressing thing, I'd guess mostly men who are sexualizing it, but if the cross dresser is highly talented with makeup and has a hell of a cool wardrobe, let alone shares where they obtained this dress or those shoes, then you could have a lot of women following, too.

There may also be people who simply support that kind of expression.

I've got a long distance social media acquaintance who went from "he" to "they" pronouns and began dressing in a very gothy and androgynous way, not quite definitely masculine or feminine, though leaning perhaps a bit feminine. They asked their friend base to support this, and in general people have. Like friends do. They have a wife, and this doesn't seem to have impacted the relationship negatively. I know that when they post selfies or posed photos, they get a lot of positive attention. It's not people trying to look at something pornographic, it's just people being generally supportive of the identity expression.

So I imagine that some portion of the followers in OP's situation were that way.

Oooooooh right.
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Old 09-21-2018, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Poor men. Women get to dress like men everyday and out in the open
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Old 09-21-2018, 09:24 AM
 
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It is clear to me now that he DOES NOT want to be open about his fantasy life with me.

We agreed to talk again tomorrow, but my hopes are dashed. I think it is over.
You only really know one part of him -- the part he allows you to see. You're containerized. That alone is not a relationship built on trust.

If on your 'partner wish list' you had an item like, "be limited in scope and depth to who my boyfriend/partner is and their life," then carry on.

If not, then time to let this one go and realize he's not a fit with your needs or requirements.
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Old 09-21-2018, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Central IL
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Cross dresssing is not necessarily gay or indicative of transsexualism...both of those are beside the point.
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What is it indicative of?
Kink.

It doesn't necessarily preclude a hetero relationship...that's the point.
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Old 09-22-2018, 08:26 AM
 
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Poor men. Women get to dress like men everyday and out in the open
I know, I get to do whatever I want. I wear boxers to bed. My favorite have cats in space with pizza, or a cat riding a donut.
I'm only an elephant in the room til I fall asleep.
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Old 09-22-2018, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Columbia SC
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I tried putting on my girlfriends panties. Thankfully, they were way to small.
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