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Old 01-28-2019, 08:56 PM
 
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Well, I always thought it works only the other way around. Apparently, the Sugar Momma Movement is gaining traction


I'm just not sure I would consider it sooner, than, say, Plan F. For that, Plan E, D, C, B would have to fail first. And there's always Plan A.




Wait, this still makes no sense. How on earth do they then make it through initial selection process ? I understand many people try to be nice, and would still sit through a disastrous first date.


But how do you get to second date in such predicament ? I'm trying to comprehend it, but my brain just freezes.


How do you start the conversation ? "Poor me, I got me no job, life's unfair" ? And somebody nods and takes the bait ? WTF ?!?
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Old 01-28-2019, 09:09 PM
 
Location: Mr. Roger's Neighborhood
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I'm not sure I understand the sarcasm here


Wait, is that, like, a real thing ? Like, some woman, would actually take a jobless man in, so she isn't lonely ?!?!?!?
If only I were being sarcastic. Sadly, this sort of occurrence happens quite often, although the man is generally underemployed (by choice or circumstance) rather than jobless when the couple meets. One thing leads to another, he begins borrowing money/moves in with the woman, he loses his job and the next thing she knows, he either won't look for work or refuses available work due to a myriad of excuses. Because she "loves him!" and he's "so nice, so sweet" the woman puts up with this sort of behavior by day (and ******* about her man to friends, family, and strangers on social media by night).

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Old 01-28-2019, 09:12 PM
 
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Wait, this still makes no sense. How on earth do they then make it through initial selection process ? I understand many people try to be nice, and would still sit through a disastrous first date.

But how do you get to second date in such predicament ? I'm trying to comprehend it, but my brain just freezes.

How do you start the conversation ? "Poor me, I got me no job, life's unfair" ? And somebody nods and takes the bait ? WTF ?!?
My ex makes it out to be a temporary thing. He has all of these plans of how he is going to get going. And he has a job so it makes it easier to believe at first. But he has been in the same job (delivery guy) for more than 3 years.

When your choices are mostly players, married men, men as old as your father, or possibly not straight men, then this one looks okay.
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Old 01-28-2019, 10:31 PM
 
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When your choices are mostly players, married men, men as old as your father, or possibly not straight men, then this one looks okay.
Well, that certainly puts things into a full perspective.


Kinda like the scenario above being a lesser evil than being alone ?
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Old 01-28-2019, 11:00 PM
 
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Well, I always thought it works only the other way around. Apparently, the Sugar Momma Movement is gaining traction


I'm just not sure I would consider it sooner, than, say, Plan F. For that, Plan E, D, C, B would have to fail first. And there's always Plan A.




Wait, this still makes no sense. How on earth do they then make it through initial selection process ? I understand many people try to be nice, and would still sit through a disastrous first date.


But how do you get to second date in such predicament ? I'm trying to comprehend it, but my brain just freezes.


How do you start the conversation ? "Poor me, I got me no job, life's unfair" ? And somebody nods and takes the bait ? WTF ?!?
Yup. Some people are "rescuers." It goes both ways, too, but it seems like more women like a sob story, want to be "needed"*, think they can "fix" or "save" someone. (And maybe some think a guy is like an old car, he can be a "fixer-upper" you can get for next-to-nothing and turn into something fabulous?) Or, perhaps they are desperate.

And, for some people of both sexes, yeah, they'd prefer to be with *anyone* than be alone...


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If only I were being sarcastic. Sadly, this sort of occurrence happens quite often, although the man is generally underemployed (by choice or circumstance) rather than jobless when the couple meets. One thing leads to another, he begins borrowing money/moves in with the woman, he loses his job and the next thing she knows, he either won't look for work or refuses available work due to a myriad of excuses. Because she "loves him!" and he's "so nice, so sweet" the woman puts up with this sort of behavior by day (and ******* about her man to friends, family, and strangers on social media by night).
Or, she puts up with it because she's encouraged to stay by others, to "stand by her man" and stick with him in bad times and "support" him and yada yada, or feels herself that she shouldn't "abandon him in his hour of need" or whatever. (Even worse if they're married as I'm sure the "for better or for worse, for richer or for poorer" bit is thrown up.)
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Old 01-29-2019, 07:46 AM
 
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My ex makes it out to be a temporary thing. He has all of these plans of how he is going to get going. And he has a job so it makes it easier to believe at first. But he has been in the same job (delivery guy) for more than 3 years.

When your choices are mostly players, married men, men as old as your father, or possibly not straight men, then this one looks okay.
I would think that someone having only those choices would be wise to examine how that circumstance came about, and change something.
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Old 01-29-2019, 08:08 AM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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I would think that someone having only those choices would be wise to examine how that circumstance came about, and change something.


You and I would hope so, but LOOOADS of people fear to take necessary actions to change the dynamics. They come up with a litany of reasons why they can't.
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Old 01-29-2019, 07:23 PM
 
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I would think that someone having only those choices would be wise to examine how that circumstance came about, and change something.
Well, it's like I always say-- once you get to a certain age, most of the people who are still single are that way for a reason-- either because they don't want to get involved with anyone, or no one wants to get involved with them. Neither is a wise prospect. The "pickin's" get very slim eventually.
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Old 01-29-2019, 09:31 PM
 
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Well, it's like I always say-- once you get to a certain age, most of the people who are still single are that way for a reason-- either because they don't want to get involved with anyone, or no one wants to get involved with them. Neither is a wise prospect. The "pickin's" get very slim eventually.
I think I read in some other thread that the number of women after 40 with no kids is 14.4%. No idea on men percentage. And that obviously includes infertile and those who can't or won't ever attempt another pregnancy.
So, that trickles down to some 5%, and only then we can attempt to try to date and establish our own criteria for additional filtering. Not exactly great odds


Of course, the child criteria is just one of many, principle stays the same.


What I'm trying to say, is that I'm finally realizing that during those 2 decades that I was married, I also unbeknownst to me lost on best matches and, as you say, the pickings are getting slimmer with each passing year.

Kinda sobering thought

I still got my Husky, though...
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Old 01-29-2019, 09:41 PM
 
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Yup. Some people are "rescuers." It goes both ways, too, but it seems like more women like a sob story, want to be "needed"*, think they can "fix" or "save" someone. (And maybe some think a guy is like an old car, he can be a "fixer-upper" you can get for next-to-nothing and turn into something fabulous?) Or, perhaps they are desperate.

And, for some people of both sexes, yeah, they'd prefer to be with *anyone* than be alone...




Or, she puts up with it because she's encouraged to stay by others, to "stand by her man" and stick with him in bad times and "support" him and yada yada, or feels herself that she shouldn't "abandon him in his hour of need" or whatever. (Even worse if they're married as I'm sure the "for better or for worse, for richer or for poorer" bit is thrown up.)
Ok, I now understand the loneliness and .or desperation, as a reason. It's up to them to determine whether it's better to be alone or else.

But do you honestly believe there are people over 40 who genuinely believe they can actually change the other person?
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